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I wish you guys would make up your minds about what narrow slot you are going to place thousands of your fellow citizens within.
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There will be no real change until the big networks and cable news outlets are forced to report riots and martial law. Free press my as.s. |
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The mainstream media is being successfully bypassed. The only reason we know so much about Occupy WS, police brutality, etc. is exactly the reason we know what really happened in the Arab Spring: citizen journalism and the internet. The pepper-spray Oakland incident was completely covered up and lied about by the Berkeley Campus Police - but by the time the Chief had hit the evening news lying that the police were "afraid" of the protesters and "had" to pepper spray in self-defense that afternoon, multiple citizen journalism videos had already hit YouTube and UStream and the Occupy Websites, showing the blatant lie. The powers that be are very worried about the freedom of the internet - they are trying, now, to take that away. We know that the internet was deliberately cut off during the Arab Spring. The night of the huge march across the Brooklyn Bridge in NY, internet access and cell access from Zuccotti went down for 2 hours at about 10:30pm. Overuse of the network, or deliberate? We don't know.
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"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts |
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![]() Police cleared an Occupy SF encampment in front of the Federal Reserve building in San Francisco overnight.
Riot police moved in on the encampment on the sidewalk at 101 Market St. at around 4 a.m. Sunday. Police said they gave campers several warnings that began Friday morning. Police said they arrested 55 protesters were arrested for illegal lodging, and while interactions between police and protesters was tense, no officers or protesters were injured. Police said some officers were spit on(gross!!) and one officer was pushed by demonstrators. All of those arrested were taken away in zip ties and released before sunrise. It was not immediately clear how the occupiers would respond to the arrests. The Federal Reserve encampment became the largest in the city after police raided the camp at Justin Herman Plaza last week. ...of course i'm sure the spitters and shovers weren't real occupiers. ![]()
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Horses are like strawberries....they can go bad overnight. Charlie Whittingham |
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What's your point? Occupy is a peaceful movement, that absolutely promotes non-violence. Yeah, there are some that can't hold to that. Nobody has ever said there were not - but yes, if they are not peaceful, they are not following the Occupy movement's outline for protest. They may still be Occupiers. But that doesn't mean that those that are just showing up for Black Bloc violence tactics have anything to do with Occupy. Not at all. Is that too much nuance to understand? Quote:
You choose to believe the police public line. I'm pointing out that over and over, actual video proves the police (some police) have been proven to be lying outright. Dell just immediately dismissed those that document police abuse as liars. Believe your eyes, or believe the stories (from either side) Multiple expensive lawsuits have been filed against certain cities, by organizations such as the ACLU and by individual citizens, over infringement on freedoms and police brutality. When you have documented evidence, rather than only, "he said, she said", it's easy to do. You'll notice that nobody is painting all the police with the same broad brush you are trying to paint the Occupy'ers with. There are multiple Occupy encampments where there have been zero negative interactions with the police, where the right to protest peacefully is 100% supported by the locals, police and government - no matter how inconvenient some may find it.
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"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts |
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![]() I never believe the police public line. I dont believe the public's public line most of the time either.. but certainly dont believe the police. I can post article after article about the police "public line" covering up for the illegal **** the police just did.
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