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Old 12-07-2011, 08:25 PM
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Listen you werent here so you only know what you read.
Actually, no. I watched it happen live on multiple UStreams, with live comments from people there.

Were you there? I doubt it. Because the night of the arrests there was no march. The marched on the sidewalks around the city hall (which blocked no one). Police set up a perimeter and wouldn't anyone in (clearly visible from the news helicopters covering the story). So yeah, those businesses were affected: at midnight. But it wasn't due to the protesters. It was due to the police coming in. Coming in to make arrests over something they allowed for 2 months. In fact, the LA PD liason officer to Occupy, the officer that works with Occupy, at 10:30pm, was broadcast saying, "No, there will be no arrests tonight". Of course, the arrests came at midnight, so he was not lying.

But the validity of Occupy isn't what this thread is about. It is about what the police did to the protesters and how they treated them during and after the arrest process. What do you think about that?
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Old 12-07-2011, 10:22 PM
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Actually, no. I watched it happen live on multiple UStreams, with live comments from people there.

Were you there? I doubt it. Because the night of the arrests there was no march. The marched on the sidewalks around the city hall (which blocked no one). Police set up a perimeter and wouldn't anyone in (clearly visible from the news helicopters covering the story). So yeah, those businesses were affected: at midnight. But it wasn't due to the protesters. It was due to the police coming in. Coming in to make arrests over something they allowed for 2 months. In fact, the LA PD liason officer to Occupy, the officer that works with Occupy, at 10:30pm, was broadcast saying, "No, there will be no arrests tonight". Of course, the arrests came at midnight, so he was not lying.

But the validity of Occupy isn't what this thread is about. It is about what the police did to the protesters and how they treated them during and after the arrest process. What do you think about that?
No I wasnt there, why the hell would I be downtown in the middle of the work day? Not much pay in that.
They marched down the middle of Fig. St at 7 am in the freaking morning, they put up tents in the streets after they were told they would be arrested.
Half the freaking police force of L.A. were there making sure everything went down smoothly. People got to march and they got to be heard, they Occupied 4 lanes of a public thoroughfare and the surrounding streets and they got to camp out and protest for days, with no police officer impededing them.

They were fair warned that they needed to move and they didnt care......you cannot just freaking take up public space forever and if you dont believe that the whole Occupy L.A. protest didnt affect people's forward progress you are blind.
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Old 12-08-2011, 03:53 AM
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People have no sympathy for OWS because they see them as simply being obstructionist as in cases like this. They are desperate for publicity so they do thing like this but the shock value is now gone. If they disobey direct police orders then thy will get arrested. We cant have people in the street deciding that they are going to do as they please against police/local authorities orders. The money spent on this nonsense including the unwarranted lawsuits (the vast majority which will be thrown out) is not helping OWS in the eyes of the average US citizen, it is hurting them.
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Old 12-08-2011, 06:59 AM
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F.uck Hollywood.

"Occupy" was taken over by brainwashed over-educated idiots. The agenda now is less free market, more government. Yeah government isn't responsible for 15 trillion in debt. Government is very responsible. They have great accountants. Lets make it bigger.
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Old 12-08-2011, 05:07 PM
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F.uck Hollywood.

"Occupy" was taken over by brainwashed over-educated idiots.

The agenda now is less free market, more government. Yeah government isn't responsible for 15 trillion in debt. Government is very responsible. They have great accountants. Lets make it bigger.
Good grief. Idiot dirty unwashed hippies, over-educated ne'er do well entitled jobless rich kids.

I wish you guys would make up your minds about what narrow slot you are going to place thousands of your fellow citizens within.
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Old 12-09-2011, 06:06 AM
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Good grief. Idiot dirty unwashed hippies, over-educated ne'er do well entitled jobless rich kids.

I wish you guys would make up your minds about what narrow slot you are going to place thousands of your fellow citizens within.
The reality is the socialists are the ones getting the majority of airtime on pmsnbc, cnn, cbs and abc. Poll most Americans and a staggering percentage will say Michael Moore is the figurehead of OWS.

There will be no real change until the big networks and cable news outlets are forced to report riots and martial law. Free press my as.s.
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Old 12-09-2011, 03:42 PM
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The reality is the socialists are the ones getting the majority of airtime on pmsnbc, cnn, cbs and abc. Poll most Americans and a staggering percentage will say Michael Moore is the figurehead of OWS.

There will be no real change until the big networks and cable news outlets are forced to report riots and martial law. Free press my as.s.
I wish we had more socialists in our government. And you are right, unfortunately, about Michael Moore, and martial law.

The mainstream media is being successfully bypassed. The only reason we know so much about Occupy WS, police brutality, etc. is exactly the reason we know what really happened in the Arab Spring: citizen journalism and the internet.

The pepper-spray Oakland incident was completely covered up and lied about by the Berkeley Campus Police - but by the time the Chief had hit the evening news lying that the police were "afraid" of the protesters and "had" to pepper spray in self-defense that afternoon, multiple citizen journalism videos had already hit YouTube and UStream and the Occupy Websites, showing the blatant lie.

The powers that be are very worried about the freedom of the internet - they are trying, now, to take that away. We know that the internet was deliberately cut off during the Arab Spring.

The night of the huge march across the Brooklyn Bridge in NY, internet access and cell access from Zuccotti went down for 2 hours at about 10:30pm. Overuse of the network, or deliberate? We don't know.
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