Dice

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

The 'Don't Pass' bet at the dice table is only a 1.4% takeout. And the Pass bet is like a 1.6% takeout and you can bet 10 times in the back at a 0.00% takeout after the first roll.

If you think about it --- the dice table is a great place to take your girlfriend or wife on a date.

Also... if you're going to bet on something just for the sake of betting on something and getting that action buzz ... why would you play anything else but the dice table? The house edge is laughably low. It's befudding walking around a casino and seeing only two dice tables going -- one at a $5 minimum and another a $10 min ... and yet you see all the other equally mindless games and stupid machines rocking and rolling.

Just like horse racing, people don't want to take the time to learn (or learn to handicap for that matter) how to play. I also think that there is some sort of intimidation factor around that table as well.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Just like horse racing, people don't want to take the time to learn (or learn to handicap for that matter) how to play. I also think that there is some sort of intimidation factor around that table as well.

The intimidation factor is certainly understandable at a dice table -- I'm not even clear as to what's going on in between rolls... or why the people who work for the casino need to shout "YO!" every time someone rolls an eleven.

It makes for a fun time though -- because you can stand around and make judgements on people by looking at them. I think girls like doing that and they like throwing the dice as well.

If you think the person looks like a Mush or is just wearing Steelers gear -- bet the don't pass and root against them. If not -- limp in with a $5 bet on the dice at like a 1.6% takeout ... and bet $25 or $50 in the back at a 0.00% takeout after a number is up.

I'm horrible with coming up for ideas for dates -- but the dice table was an outstanding one. Good offbeat conversation + slight buzz of low stakes gambling + the house edge is freaking tiny and there is no pressure to bet on every roll or every shooter.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

The intimidation factor is certainly understandable at a dice table -- I'm not even clear as to what's going on in between rolls... or why the people who work for the casino need to shout "YO!" every time someone rolls an eleven.

It makes for a fun time though -- because you can stand around and make judgements on people by looking at them. I think girls like doing that and they like throwing the dice as well.

If you think the person looks like a Mush or is just wearing Steelers gear -- bet the don't pass and root against them. If not -- limp in with a $5 bet on the dice at like a 1.6% takeout ... and bet $25 or $50 in the back at a 0.00% takeout after a number is up.

I'm horrible with coming up for ideas for dates -- but the dice table was an outstanding one. Good offbeat conversation + slight buzz of low stakes gambling + the house edge is freaking tiny and there is no pressure to bet on every roll or every shooter.

There is nothing like being on a hot crap table. It's freakin awesome. It literally draws the entire casino to it.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

There is nothing like being on a hot crap table. It's freakin awesome. It literally draws the entire casino to it.

I second that. It has happened to me a few times. It's pretty orgasmic.

[clyde]

Vegas Vets are found everywhere in today's society;they come in all shapes and sizes...differing views of the world around them...oddly dressed with various hat sizes..male/female, introvert/extrovert,sanitary worker/lawyer,gay/not gay.


One thing's for sure.














And I ain't gonna say it.

[golfer]

You want excitement playing craps, try a hard way parlay.
Hickory dickory dock, ooooh!

[rpncaine]

If there is a craps table...I'm there! I guess it's a good thing that Indy Downs (10 minutes from my house) is a RACINO and they only have the electronic version as I would probably be divorced by now if thye had the real thing.
I love to play the "don'ts". If I can get on the 4 or 10 and then load up with a cover bet on the hard way I'm set.

Once missed out on getting our bags out for the porters at the end of a cruise because I was on a smokin hot craps table for several hours. Me and the wife had to carry all of our bags off the boat and thru the New Orleans terminal...almost had a heart attack, but I won over 2K and had the time of my gambling life. Swear to god this lady rolled 11 or 12 six times in a row and the place was going NUTS!

Craps is the bomb and it doesn't take that long to figure it out. Just get on a slow table and talk up a dealer and they will tell you what you need to know. Best action game in the world!

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

The intimidation factor is certainly understandable at a dice table -- I'm not even clear as to what's going on in between rolls... or why the people who work for the casino need to shout "YO!" every time someone rolls an eleven.

It makes for a fun time though -- because you can stand around and make judgements on people by looking at them. I think girls like doing that and they like throwing the dice as well.

If you think the person looks like a Mush or is just wearing Steelers gear -- bet the don't pass and root against them. If not -- limp in with a $5 bet on the dice at like a 1.6% takeout ... and bet $25 or $50 in the back at a 0.00% takeout after a number is up.

I'm horrible with coming up for ideas for dates -- but the dice table was an outstanding one. Good offbeat conversation + slight buzz of low stakes gambling + the house edge is freaking tiny and there is no pressure to bet on every roll or every shooter.

Pass line+Odds followed by Come bet plus Odds. That is all there is to it. People are very nervous about it though while the rubes throw in their sucker bets after each roll.
As far as the ladies go, it is a great place to enjoy someones company. Playing the way I play you are never going to get hurt and more often than not (about 70%) you will leave up. My wife loves it, the women I have met in Vegas that never payed all really love it. Great times and bar none the best thing in any casino. Only thing for me besides the books.

[clyde]

And this is why I did'un have to say it.






"Mommy!Mommy!I got an A in craps!!"


Of course, every Vegas Vet is fox smart and always wins...no one ever loses money.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by clyde

And this is why I did'un have to say it.






"Mommy!Mommy!I got an A in craps!!"


Of course, every Vegas Vet is fox smart and always wins...no one ever loses money.

~30% loss rate. Always lose it all. "Winning" for me means playing for two to four hours and leaving with more money than I show up with. Very rarely is it an 'A' performance.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

~30% loss rate. Always lose it all. "Winning" for me means playing for two to four hours and leaving with more money than I show up with. Very rarely is it an 'A' performance.

Thanks so much for not being yet another message board Arnold Rothstein.




Dese people am good!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rggtzgTDx1Q

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by clyde

Thanks so much for not being yet another message board Arnold Rothstein.




Dese people am good!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rggtzgTDx1Q

Take you woman to the $5 crap table Clyde.

I'd say an outcome to a roll happens about once every 2-minutes.

So -- you'll be betting $150 an hour in handle over the course of 30 rolls ... the house edge is 1.4% so they will get you for $2.10 if the law of AVG's work out.

Think about that ... an hour date that costs just $2.10. Your girlfriend gets to throw dice and make snap judgements on shady people all the while.

Mix in cheap and sometimes free drinks -- and you're getting over.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Pass line+Odds followed by Come bet plus Odds. That is all there is to it. People are very nervous about it though while the rubes throw in their sucker bets after each roll.
As far as the ladies go, it is a great place to enjoy someones company. Playing the way I play you are never going to get hurt and more often than not (about 70%) you will leave up. My wife loves it, the women I have met in Vegas that never payed all really love it. Great times and bar none the best thing in any casino. Only thing for me besides the books.

70% of the time you leave up. It's wonder the casinos are still in business.

[pointman]

Jack and Jill went up the hill each with a buck and a quarter . . .

Oops, wrong Dice.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by pointman

Jack and Jill went up the hill each with a buck and a quarter . . .

Oops, wrong Dice.

Little Boy Blue...hey, he needed the money.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by GPK

Little Boy Blue...hey, he needed the money.

Interesting that you would pick that one. hmmmmm.................

[Sightseek]

I could play the horses every day, but I just can't get into any other form of gambling.


I must be a bad date.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by jms62

70% of the time you leave up. It's wonder the casinos are still in business.

Why is that statement questionable to you?

Let's say your whole goal is to win $50 to pay for dinner and you have $350 to start with.

If you bet the Pass or Don't Pass -- you have a 49.3% chance of winning.

So -- Bet $50 - if you lose Bet $100 -- if you lose bet $200.

Your chances of losing 3 straight are just 13.03%

Your chances of winning without losing 3 straight are 86.97%.

So... 86.97% of the time you will achieve your goal of winning $50. 13% of the time... you will be exposed as an idiot.

Thus, you can win $50 87% and they still have an edge on you.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Why is that statement questionable to you?

Let's say your whole goal is to win $50 to pay for dinner and you have $350 to start with.

If you bet the Pass or Don't Pass -- you have a 49.3% chance of winning.

So -- Bet $50 - if you lose Bet $100 -- if you lose bet $200.

Your chances of losing 3 straight are just 13.03%

Your chances of winning without losing 3 straight are 86.97%.

So... 86.97% of the time you will achieve your goal of winning $50. 13% of the time... you will be exposed as an idiot.

Thus, you can win $50 87% and they still have an edge on you.

If you play max odds you do not need to do the increase at double rate, the payout odds will take care of the losses and the come pays take care of the craps.
My goal is to play, play and enjoy myself. Sometimes things go well but for the most part my goal is to leave with a few bucks and a few cocktails on the house (casinos have started getting proper beers from Colorado now). The way I play facilitates that, unless you go and try or have (but if you have you would not be questioning)it exactly as I do you should not question my success. I have not made myself rich by playing craps, but I have eaten fairly well in Vegas.

[kp319]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Just like horse racing, people don't want to take the time to learn (or learn to handicap for that matter) how to play. I also think that there is some sort of intimidation factor around that table as well.

I find walking up to a stern faced blackjack dealer much more intimidating. Craps is the only thing I play in a casino.