My Occupy LA Arrest, by Family Guy writer Patrick Meighan

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Riot

For a misdemeanor.



Really? People sitting outside city hall on the lawn at midnight, which is when the raid occurred, impeded people going to their jobs?



Really? Which?


No, that's not true: the police gave them no warning, they came out of City Hall, surround the protesters on the lawn, broke them into four separate sections, and would NOT let them leave with their stuff. See .. this was shown LIVE on multiple UStream feeds, and the press was there - and removed from the site so they couldn't film and observe directly.

Fourth Amendment matter to anyone?

They made the choice to not resist arrest for a misdemeanor - not moving when ordered to by a policeman. So do you consider being forced to kneel on cement for 7 hours, with your hands ziplocked behind your back, police brutality or not? How about vomiting repeatedly and passing out with zero police help while in custody? Do you think that should be legal in the United States of America? Or do you think a militarized, fascist police state is just what is needed in the USA right now?

I thought you guys were supposed to be big, basic, freedom-loving Conservative American patriots? Dell? As a self-professed Libertarian, you should be infuriated at this. But you are not. Why not?

So you guys think that peaceful legal protest with civil disobedience over a misdemeanor should result in nerve damage for a professional writer? And that's okay with you guys?

Listen you werent here so you only know what you read. They Occupied 4 blocks of Fig. St which is the main 4 lane street thru L.A. running north and south there are multiple buisness's along that route. Fig. St. was not the only one closed the surrounding side streets were also closed so you do the math of how may buisness's were affected.
The L.A. P.D. did more than just than close down the streets for them they made sure their march was peacefull, they also warned the squaters who on purpose put tents up in the streets that if they put them up they would be arrested. Also the City of L.A. told them they had to move but there was another place they could go to continue their protesting. The freaking loser Mayor came out and told them on T.V. that they had to move, that they couldnt obstruct the City Hall lawn. I dont oppose anyone's right to protest as they like but when it directly affects the lives and buisness's of people going about their daily lives I have a problem with it.
Riot are you so blinded by your bleeding heart that you cant see?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Honu

Listen you werent here so you only know what you read.

Actually, no. I watched it happen live on multiple UStreams, with live comments from people there.

Were you there? I doubt it. Because the night of the arrests there was no march. The marched on the sidewalks around the city hall (which blocked no one). Police set up a perimeter and wouldn't anyone in (clearly visible from the news helicopters covering the story). So yeah, those businesses were affected: at midnight. But it wasn't due to the protesters. It was due to the police coming in. Coming in to make arrests over something they allowed for 2 months. In fact, the LA PD liason officer to Occupy, the officer that works with Occupy, at 10:30pm, was broadcast saying, "No, there will be no arrests tonight". Of course, the arrests came at midnight, so he was not lying.

But the validity of Occupy isn't what this thread is about. It is about what the police did to the protesters and how they treated them during and after the arrest process. What do you think about that?

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Riot

Actually, no. I watched it happen live on multiple UStreams, with live comments from people there.

Were you there? I doubt it. Because the night of the arrests there was no march. The marched on the sidewalks around the city hall (which blocked no one). Police set up a perimeter and wouldn't anyone in (clearly visible from the news helicopters covering the story). So yeah, those businesses were affected: at midnight. But it wasn't due to the protesters. It was due to the police coming in. Coming in to make arrests over something they allowed for 2 months. In fact, the LA PD liason officer to Occupy, the officer that works with Occupy, at 10:30pm, was broadcast saying, "No, there will be no arrests tonight". Of course, the arrests came at midnight, so he was not lying.

But the validity of Occupy isn't what this thread is about. It is about what the police did to the protesters and how they treated them during and after the arrest process. What do you think about that?

No I wasnt there, why the hell would I be downtown in the middle of the work day? Not much pay in that.
They marched down the middle of Fig. St at 7 am in the freaking morning, they put up tents in the streets after they were told they would be arrested.
Half the freaking police force of L.A. were there making sure everything went down smoothly. People got to march and they got to be heard, they Occupied 4 lanes of a public thoroughfare and the surrounding streets and they got to camp out and protest for days, with no police officer impededing them.

They were fair warned that they needed to move and they didnt care......you cannot just freaking take up public space forever and if you dont believe that the whole Occupy L.A. protest didnt affect people's forward progress you are blind.

[Cannon Shell]

People have no sympathy for OWS because they see them as simply being obstructionist as in cases like this. They are desperate for publicity so they do thing like this but the shock value is now gone. If they disobey direct police orders then thy will get arrested. We cant have people in the street deciding that they are going to do as they please against police/local authorities orders. The money spent on this nonsense including the unwarranted lawsuits (the vast majority which will be thrown out) is not helping OWS in the eyes of the average US citizen, it is hurting them.

F.uck Hollywood.

"Occupy" was taken over by brainwashed over-educated idiots. The agenda now is less free market, more government. Yeah government isn't responsible for 15 trillion in debt. Government is very responsible. They have great accountants. Lets make it bigger.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

F.uck Hollywood.

"Occupy" was taken over by brainwashed over-educated idiots.

The agenda now is less free market, more government. Yeah government isn't responsible for 15 trillion in debt. Government is very responsible. They have great accountants. Lets make it bigger.

Good grief. Idiot dirty unwashed hippies, over-educated ne'er do well entitled jobless rich kids.

I wish you guys would make up your minds about what narrow slot you are going to place thousands of your fellow citizens within.

Originally Posted by Riot

Good grief. Idiot dirty unwashed hippies, over-educated ne'er do well entitled jobless rich kids.

I wish you guys would make up your minds about what narrow slot you are going to place thousands of your fellow citizens within.

The reality is the socialists are the ones getting the majority of airtime on pmsnbc, cnn, cbs and abc. Poll most Americans and a staggering percentage will say Michael Moore is the figurehead of OWS.

There will be no real change until the big networks and cable news outlets are forced to report riots and martial law. Free press my as.s.