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[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Cardus

As far as the defense is concerned: it certainly is on the hook for a part of the loss, since it allowed Tebow to run over them at the end of the game.

What if Leonhard makes the tackle at or near the goal line at the beginning of the drive? I don't know that it would have been a safety, but certainly it would have been a small gain only.
And Smith at the end of the drive?

These aren't the only plays where the safeties haven't played well for the Jets this year. It is a clear deficiency that has mattered, particularly last night.

Ok, I'll play the what if game.
What if Sanchez doesn't throw a pick 6?
What if Sanchez doesn't over throw a wide open Keller in the endzone?
What if Nick Folk doesn't miss 2 FG's (I know that they weren't chip shots).

Granted they couldn't make a big play down the stretch, but they certainly did enough to win that game. Denver had field position on them all night (except for the final drive) and only scored a FG up until the final drive.

I'll admit that I don't think Eric Smith is great, but I think you picking on them in this case is unfair.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Ok, I'll play the what if game.
What if Sanchez doesn't throw a pick 6?
What if Sanchez doesn't over throw a wide open Keller in the endzone?
What if Nick Folk doesn't miss 2 FG's (I know that they weren't chip shots).

Granted they couldn't make a big play down the stretch, but they certainly did enough to win that game. Denver had field position on them all night (except for the final drive) and only scored a FG up until the final drive.

I'll admit that I don't think Eric Smith is great, but I think you picking on them in this case is unfair.

Although thankfully I didn't watch Thursday's game, I have seen enough of Eric Smith and Jim Leonhard to know that neither is athletic enough to thrive in the Jets' defensive system. Leonhard, coming off last year's broken leg, may have lost a step he couldn't afford to lose, and Smith, while probably an over-achiever, simply hasn't been getting the job done is pass coverage.

Bottom line, an above average defense, no matter how well they may have played the first 55 minutes of the game, DOES NOT let Tim Tebow march 95 yards down the field for the game winning TD. Simple as that, IMO.

The offense is quite another matter.

[Alabama Stakes]

i think the Jets were still dizzy from the beating the Pats laid on them. Tebow is like Zenyatta, a winner. Winners win, Ive seen Tebow make plenty of big throws. His will to win is incredible. That oklahoma team was WAY better than Florida and Tim Tebow still found a way to beat them. He'll be president some day, or at least vice president when Tom Brady takes over the country. Dont forget....he's basically a rookie with single digit starts, and is winning already. for those interested in making a couple of bucks on Sunday. If Vince Young starts for Philly, they will whip the Jintz.

[King Glorious]

I don't think Tebow would make a good running back. Part of what makes him effective as a runner is the defense not being able to totally key in on him running. As bad a passer as he is, they still have to give some respect to it. Look at last weekend when he won the game with the long touchdown pass, his second completion of the game. I think that taking that dimension away would really hurt his effectiveness as a runner and his lack of skills in that area would be exposed much more than they are now.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I don't think Tebow would make a good running back. Part of what makes him effective as a runner is the defense not being able to totally key in on him running. As bad a passer as he is, they still have to give some respect to it. Look at last weekend when he won the game with the long touchdown pass, his second completion of the game. I think that taking that dimension away would really hurt his effectiveness as a runner and his lack of skills in that area would be exposed much more than they are now.

Was I blind or did the KC defensive backs stop on the play before Decker made the catch?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

i think the Jets were still dizzy from the beating the Pats laid on them. Tebow is like Zenyatta, a winner. Winners win, Ive seen Tebow make plenty of big throws. His will to win is incredible. That oklahoma team was WAY better than Florida and Tim Tebow still found a way to beat them. He'll be president some day, or at least vice president when Tom Brady takes over the country. Dont forget....he's basically a rookie with single digit starts, and is winning already. for those interested in making a couple of bucks on Sunday. If Vince Young starts for Philly, they will whip the Jintz.

Tebow is like Zenyatta. I love it.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Tebow is like Zenyatta. I love it.

I wonder what's going to happen if they ever have to play east of the Mississippi..............

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I wonder what's going to happen if they ever have to play east of the Mississippi..............

the usual....a win, i still cant believe Blame held on desperately