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Old 11-06-2011, 10:21 AM
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If Uncle No opted to go in the Mile where he had more of a shot to win, then he could be in the running for it
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:26 AM
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If Uncle No opted to go in the Mile where he had more of a shot to win, then he could be in the running for it
If you believe that then Caleb's Posse should be a lock.
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:40 AM
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If Uncle No opted to go in the Mile where he had more of a shot to win, then he could be in the running for it
Based on a win in a made up stake and the Kelso?
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Old 11-06-2011, 12:56 PM
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Based on a win in a made up stake and the Kelso?
I think that Repole would of went on an all out campaign for HOY. I mean HOY doesnt mean best horse of the year, just look at what happened to Blame last year
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Old 11-06-2011, 01:23 PM
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I remember a movie some years ago, I think it was "Brewster's Millions" and Richard Pryor was trying to convince people that none of the guys running for president were good enough so he started a campaign telling people to chose "none of the above". I think that would fit horse racing this year. If pressed, I think I'd lean towards Havre de Grace but I find myself increasingly considering Game on Dude.
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Old 11-06-2011, 01:39 PM
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I remember a movie some years ago, I think it was "Brewster's Millions" and Richard Pryor was trying to convince people that none of the guys running for president were good enough so he started a campaign telling people to chose "none of the above". I think that would fit horse racing this year. If pressed, I think I'd lean towards Havre de Grace but I find myself increasingly considering Game on Dude.
as I recall he had 30 days to spend $30 million dollars. and it was for mayor of New York
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Old 11-06-2011, 02:05 PM
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as I recall he had 30 days to spend $30 million dollars. and it was for mayor of New York
Maybe so. The point remains.
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Old 11-06-2011, 03:02 PM
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Maybe so. The point remains.

my favorite part is when he hires everyone in the beginning and spends the money
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Old 11-06-2011, 03:14 PM
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Anyone have any opinion on 2-y-o male eclipse?

I would say that Union Rags still wins it based on his resume.
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Old 11-06-2011, 03:26 PM
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If Baffert runs Secret Circle in the Futurity at Hollywood in December, then Secret Circle takes 2 yr old honors provided Rags doesnt run anymore and win. As of now Hansen regrettably would be 2 yr old of year
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Old 11-06-2011, 01:58 PM
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http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...rt-no-problems

Looks like Flat Out could try the Clark.
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Old 11-06-2011, 03:06 PM
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The Dirt Mile is better then some of the new races, but it has a bad effect on the older ones. It needs to go.... Those horses should be stretching out in the Classic or cuting back for the sprint.
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Old 11-06-2011, 05:13 PM
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After last year I'm confused as to the criteria for winning HOY. Is it based on a popularity contest, winning the most money, winning the most races, being the most competitive? I'm lost, I have no idea.

Rapid Redux has been the most consistent winner all year by far. He now has the opportunity to break PP and Zen's record of 19 straight wins. Because of the level he competes at he could never win more money than most G1 winners. He's becoming more popular but not like the freight train of Zen's popularity.

Rapid Redux is too blue collar to win HOY. If he did win I imagine those 'ole Kentucky folks would have a coronary.
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Old 11-06-2011, 05:19 PM
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Please everyone stop with the Rapid Redux talk. Its a great story and he is admirable, but thats it. The Classic beyer was crap yesterday, no one will argue the race was fast..... But Rapid Redux still would have made no impact. He would have run last. He is a starter allowance/claiming horse, and thats it.
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Old 11-06-2011, 06:41 PM
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After last year I'm confused as to the criteria for winning HOY. Is it based on a popularity contest, winning the most money, winning the most races, being the most competitive? I'm lost, I have no idea.

Rapid Redux has been the most consistent winner all year by far. He now has the opportunity to break PP and Zen's record of 19 straight wins. Because of the level he competes at he could never win more money than most G1 winners. He's becoming more popular but not like the freight train of Zen's popularity.

Rapid Redux is too blue collar to win HOY. If he did win I imagine those 'ole Kentucky folks would have a coronary.
i don't know if anyone knows the criteria. zenyatta's win last year was a pathetic joke, which makes me wonder if it can ever be taken seriously again.
apparently whatever owner does the most pr-wise will win hoy for his/her horse. i suggest lots of fan friendly photo ops in the coming weeks. or dancing lessons...
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