Occupy Wall Street

[slotdirt]

Is it really too much to ask of someone who's arguing a certain point to provide evidence substantiating said point?

I know that saying "special interests run Washington" is a great talking point, but what special interest that is running Washington is causing particular harm to me, you, or the wall? The March of Dimes? AARP? NRA? I really don't think this is a particularly difficult question to answer of someone who seems to stridently believe what they're typing.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Is it really too much to ask of someone who's arguing a certain point to provide evidence substantiating said point?

I know that saying "special interests run Washington" is a great talking point, but what special interest that is running Washington is causing particular harm to me, you, or the wall? The March of Dimes? AARP? NRA? I really don't think this is a particularly difficult question to answer of someone who seems to stridently believe what they're typing.

So you think that special intrests don't run Washington? Tell me why?

Banking industry Lobbyists and Pharmaceutical Industry Lobbyists? Repeal of Glass Stegal Act was that good for the country? No lobbyists involved there, LOL. Allowing Hedge Funds to invest in the Futures markets... Yeah that helped things and I am sure no lobbyists involved there... And your retort will be to ask for the Bill number and sponser may I say please stop in advance. You could be betting horses today instead of wasting your time.

So if I take it raw dog in the rear everyday the rest of my life you'll give me a hoveround and a sony flat screen? Where do I sign?

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by jms62

So you think that special intrests don't run Washington? Tell me why?

Banking industry Lobbyists and Pharmaceutical Industry Lobbyists? Repeal of Glass Stegal Act was that good for the country? No lobbyists involved there, LOL. Allowing Hedge Funds to invest in the Futures markets... Yeah that helped things and I am sure no lobbyists involved there... And your retort will be to ask for the Bill number and sponser may I say please stop in advance. You could be betting horses today instead of wasting your time.

Lobbyists write most of the legislation.

[Riot]

I find this surprising:

Public Policy Polling
http://dailykos.com/weeklypolling/2011/10/6
Occupy Wall Street most favored by income earners over $100,000

Q: Do you have a favorable, unfavorable, or neutral opinion of the Occupy Wall Street movement, or have you not heard of it?

Favorable: 35
Unfavorable: 31
Neutral: 19
Haven't heard of it: 14

Income - favorable - unfavorable
Less than $30,000: 35-27
$30,000 to $50,000: 35-28
$50,000 to $75,000: 34-40
$75,000 to $100,000: 33-35
Over $100,000: 44-31
Declined to Answer: 24-30

Reuters, too:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...79B6V120111012

Eighty-two percent of Americans have heard of the protest movement
38 percent feel favorably toward it
35 percent are undecided
24 percent are unfavorable.

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by jms62

So you think that special intrests don't run Washington? Tell me why?

Banking industry Lobbyists and Pharmaceutical Industry Lobbyists? Repeal of Glass Stegal Act was that good for the country? No lobbyists involved there, LOL. Allowing Hedge Funds to invest in the Futures markets... Yeah that helped things and I am sure no lobbyists involved there... And your retort will be to ask for the Bill number and sponser may I say please stop in advance. You could be betting horses today instead of wasting your time.

You're a little late to the game, man. Glass-Steagal was repealed in the 90's. Does Occupy Wall Street have a Way Back Machine?

Nothing else to add aside from I'm relatively certain the two industries you cited have been as unsuccessful as any at influence over the last three or four years. If banking industry lobbyists ran the world, I'd guarantee you Dodd-Frank wouldn't be on the books. Likewise, the pharmaceutical industry and health reform.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

You're a little late to the game, man. Glass-Steagal was repealed in the 90's. Does Occupy Wall Street have a Way Back Machine?

Nothing else to add aside from I'm relatively certain the two industries you cited have been as unsuccessful as any at influence over the last three or four years. If banking industry lobbyists ran the world, I'd guarantee you Dodd-Frank wouldn't be on the books. Likewise, the pharmaceutical industry and health reform.

Dude you asked I gave and now you are complaining that Glass Stegal is old? It came into being during the Great Depression. Repealed and 10 years later we have the biggest economic crises since the depression. And your blanket statement about the success of Banking and Pharma lobbying after accusing someone of making blanket statement is pretty funny. This whole argument is pointless with you. Simple queston. Do you really believe the pablum you spew or just love a good argument?

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by jms62

Dude you asked I gave and now you are complaining that Glass Stegal is old? It came into being during the Great Depression. Repealed and 10 years later we have the biggest economic crises since the depression. And your blanket statement about the success of Banking and Pharma lobbying after accusing someone of making blanket statement is pretty funny. This whole argument is pointless with you. Simple queston. Do you really believe the pablum you spew or just love a good argument?

I just want to know why you weren't marching on Congress when they were looking to repeal most of Glass-Steagal back in the late 90's. Surely, you were as interested in these issues then as you are now, right?

And I don't mean to be trite, but anybody who tries to get the last word with constant insults is someone whose argument is already lost.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I just want to know why you weren't marching on Congress when they were looking to repeal most of Glass-Steagal back in the late 90's. Surely, you were as interested in these issues then as you are now, right?

And I don't mean to be trite, but anybody who tries to get the last word with constant insults is someone whose argument is already lost.

Sharp comeback and if you dont mean to be trite then dont be it is a very simple concept.

Originally Posted by slotdirt

And I don't mean to be trite, but anybody who tries to get the last word with constant insults is someone whose argument is already lost.

That's a pushover mentality and a fine example of how these corrupt scumbags have conditioned us to lay down and be little b.itches and accept this nonsense. Control your emotions. Be fake. Accept things as the way they are.

BS. People need to be told to f.uck off more often.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

That's a pushover mentality and a fine example of how these corrupt scumbags have conditioned us to lay down and be little b.itches and accept this nonsense. Control your emotions. Be fake. Accept things as the way they are.

BS. People need to be told to f.uck off more often.

Fucl< off more often.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I just want to know why you weren't marching on Congress when they were looking to repeal most of Glass-Steagal back in the late 90's.

Well, Occupy Wall Street is marching on Wall Street and the government now. Exactly over things like the repeal of Glass-Steagal.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, Occupy Wall Street is marching on Wall Street and the government now. Exactly over things like the repeal of Glass-Steagal.

I would be willing to bet that less than 5% of the people marching have ever heard of Glass-Steagal.