Occupy Wall Street

[jms62]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

You really think that most people making over $374k (the 35 percent income tax bracket) are getting a refund? Especially when one includes local, state, and property taxes? Really?

And you have no idea whether or not I'll ever be in the top income tax bracket without looking at my W-2's. I can assure you these people are not protesting on my behalf. Whether or not I'm ever lucky enough to make that much money, I'll still never agree with the premise that rich people need to be taxed at a higher percentage simply because they're rich.

Top tax bracket is FAR FAR FAR away from my point that you will never be amongst the 1%. So getting back to the point tell me why these people are not protesting on your behalf?

Are you for banks being bailed out at our expense?

Are you for those people bringing us to the edge not being prosecuted and in fact receiving huge severances and bonuses for those who stayed?

Are you for special interests buying legislation that further helps them and hurts you?

Are you for jobs being shipped overseas and cheap foriegn labor being imported so companies can reach short term goals while in effect firing thier customers?

I think you probably have a lot more in common with those people than you think but are still clinging to this Republican v Democrat thing.. They both are fuking evil and whoever is in charge won't change a thing.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by jms62

Top tax bracket is FAR FAR FAR away from my point that you will never be amongst the 1%. So getting back to the point tell me why these people are not protesting on your behalf?

Are you for banks being bailed out at our expense?

Are you for those people bringing us to the edge not being prosecuted and in fact receiving huge severances and bonuses for those who stayed?

Are you for special interests buying legislation that further helps them and hurts you?

Are you for jobs being shipped overseas and cheap foriegn labor being imported so companies can reach short term goals while in effect firing thier customers?

I think you probably have a lot more in common with those people than you think but are still clinging to this Republican v Democrat thing.. They both are fuking evil and whoever is in charge won't change a thing.

Agree with just about everything you say....folks are so blinded by party politics that they don't see what's going on all around them. Both the right and the left are fed up with business as usual and if the folks in power don't wake up soon, things are gonna get nasty, history tells us that the masses will eventually rise up against what they see as blatant unfair treatment. Nothing is as simple as the sound-bite mentality this country has embraced, difficult problems require difficult solutions but they also require honesty, fairness (to all, not the wealthy few) and leadership...otherwise systems break down and chaos follows.

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by jms62

Top tax bracket is FAR FAR FAR away from my point that you will never be amongst the 1%. So getting back to the point tell me why these people are not protesting on your behalf?

Are you for banks being bailed out at our expense?

Are you for those people bringing us to the edge not being prosecuted and in fact receiving huge severances and bonuses for those who stayed?

Are you for special interests buying legislation that further helps them and hurts you?

Are you for jobs being shipped overseas and cheap foriegn labor being imported so companies can reach short term goals while in effect firing thier customers?

I think you probably have a lot more in common with those people than you think but are still clinging to this Republican v Democrat thing.. They both are fuking evil and whoever is in charge won't change a thing.

How do you know what my political beliefs are? Please name me the special interests that have bought legislation that has helped them and hurt me? I want specifics, i.e., actual pieces of legislation. There's actually a pretty good argument that the one major bill that was passed as a result of the financial crisis (Dodd-Frank) has hurt consumers a lot more than helped them.

On the rest of your points (that these people are protesting on my behalf) there's not a thing that you mentioned that ranks on my radar screen of issues that merit protests. If you don't like how the free market works, there are plenty of other places in this world where it doesn't. I encourage you to visit them.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

How do you know what my political beliefs are? Please name me the special interests that have bought legislation that has helped them and hurt me? I want specifics, i.e., actual pieces of legislation. There's actually a pretty good argument that the one major bill that was passed as a result of the financial crisis (Dodd-Frank) has hurt consumers a lot more than helped them.

On the rest of your points (that these people are protesting on my behalf) there's not a thing that you mentioned that ranks on my radar screen of issues that merit protests. If you don't like how the free market works, there are plenty of other places in this world where it doesn't. I encourage you to visit them.

Typical response

A. How do you know what my (Fill in the Blank) are?
B. Please name me the (Fill in the Blank) . I want specifics
C. If you don't like how the (Fill in the Blank) works, there are plenty of other places in this world where it doesn't. I encourage you to visit them

Seriously are you fuking 10?

[slotdirt]

Dude, you make like 34 blanket statements, I ask for specifics, and I'm the one who's ten? Obfuscate much?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Dude, you make like 34 blanket statements, I ask for specifics, and I'm the one who's ten? Obfuscate much?

Yo DOOOODE, Partcipate in the REAL WORLD much?? You would be the only person I certainly ever run across who does not think that special interest groups own the country.. I expect only 1 response

"How do you know what I think?" "

[slotdirt]

Is it really too much to ask of someone who's arguing a certain point to provide evidence substantiating said point?

I know that saying "special interests run Washington" is a great talking point, but what special interest that is running Washington is causing particular harm to me, you, or the wall? The March of Dimes? AARP? NRA? I really don't think this is a particularly difficult question to answer of someone who seems to stridently believe what they're typing.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Is it really too much to ask of someone who's arguing a certain point to provide evidence substantiating said point?

I know that saying "special interests run Washington" is a great talking point, but what special interest that is running Washington is causing particular harm to me, you, or the wall? The March of Dimes? AARP? NRA? I really don't think this is a particularly difficult question to answer of someone who seems to stridently believe what they're typing.

So you think that special intrests don't run Washington? Tell me why?

Banking industry Lobbyists and Pharmaceutical Industry Lobbyists? Repeal of Glass Stegal Act was that good for the country? No lobbyists involved there, LOL. Allowing Hedge Funds to invest in the Futures markets... Yeah that helped things and I am sure no lobbyists involved there... And your retort will be to ask for the Bill number and sponser may I say please stop in advance. You could be betting horses today instead of wasting your time.