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Old 10-11-2011, 04:11 PM
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Folks are starting to get serious..

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Sorry, but I'm missing the point in all of this. Rich people are rich and therefore are evil? Taxes should be higher because Warren Buffett's secretary pays a higher income tax rate than Buffett himself (because, well, he doesn't take a salary.)?

Seriously, I don't understand the point of these protests. If you want to go to a place where everybody pays taxes out the wazoo, move to Europe. Don't begrudge the wealthy just because they've worked hard to earn their money.
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Old 10-11-2011, 05:11 PM
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Stopped by occupy Denver this morning with a stack of job apps. Not a lot of takers. Even the guy whose sign said "We Want Jobs!!!" he must've meant Steve.
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Old 10-11-2011, 06:26 PM
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Stopped by occupy Denver this morning with a stack of job apps. Not a lot of takers. Even the guy whose sign said "We Want Jobs!!!" he must've meant Steve.
What were you looking to hire for?
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What were you looking to hire for?
Quite a few positions actually. We are expanding. Some white collar, some grey, some administrative and some blue. Even a few collarless (god forbid).
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Quite a few positions actually. We are expanding. Some white collar, some grey, some administrative and some blue. Even a few collarless (god forbid).
where can I send my resume?
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where can I send my resume?
If you are serious and considering living in Denver let me know and I will PM you.
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Quite a few positions actually. We are expanding. Some white collar, some grey, some administrative and some blue. Even a few collarless (god forbid).
What industry?
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Old 10-13-2011, 03:40 PM
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Construction.
Jobs available were, tech support, shipping, wire pulling, packaging, warehouse, data entry, admin/office manager, marketing director.

Interviewed about 30 people over the last two days. First interview question, spend any time down at "Occupy Denver"?

Most common answer, "nope, been looking for work."

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Sorry, but I'm missing the point in all of this. Rich people are rich and therefore are evil? Taxes should be higher because Warren Buffett's secretary pays a higher income tax rate than Buffett himself (because, well, he doesn't take a salary.)?

Seriously, I don't understand the point of these protests. If you want to go to a place where everybody pays taxes out the wazoo, move to Europe. Don't begrudge the wealthy just because they've worked hard to earn their money.
don't begrudge them? we pay and pay, they can too, can't they? the koch brothers are loaded--i thought if we didn't tax the rich, they'd create jobs??instead, 700 people here just got their walking papers courtesy of the kochs. yeah, because laying off more folks will help turn the economy around!!
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don't begrudge them? we pay and pay, they can too, can't they? the koch brothers are loaded--i thought if we didn't tax the rich, they'd create jobs??instead, 700 people here just got their walking papers courtesy of the kochs. yeah, because laying off more folks will help turn the economy around!!
Obfuscation. The federal income tax is 35 percent for the top bracket. 35 percent. How is that not a "fair share?" If 35 percent of any human's income isn't their fair share to fund the government, what is? 50 percent? 60 percent?
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When a staggering percentage of the rich have profited off of the decade-long wars? 85%
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When a staggering percentage of the rich have profited off of the decade-long wars? 85%
Do you have specifics? Sounds interesting.
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Obfuscation. The federal income tax is 35 percent for the top bracket. 35 percent. How is that not a "fair share?" If 35 percent of any human's income isn't their fair share to fund the government, what is? 50 percent? 60 percent?
Percentages are meaningless unless you have limited rightoffs. They are not paying anything near 35% hence Warren Buffets statements.
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Old 10-12-2011, 05:47 AM
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Shouldn't these protestors either be working or looking for a job? Just when was it that working hard and making something out of your life is a BAD thing? Maybe we should all bring up our children teaching them that they should be losers who expect other people to take care of them.
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Shouldn't these protestors either be working or looking for a job? Just when was it that working hard and making something out of your life is a BAD thing? Maybe we should all bring up our children teaching them that they should be losers who expect other people to take care of them.
there's nothing wrong with working hard. they aren't protesting that. instead, people see wall street making money hand over fist, banks being 'bailed out' while paying millions in bonuses. ceo salaries thru the roof, etc, etc. how have the rich ever garnered so much sympathy? where is the sympathy for people looking for work that can't find it? people who pay into their 401k, only to see their retirement disappear? how many people can't retire because they can't afford it, which means no churn in employment?
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Percentages are meaningless unless you have limited rightoffs. They are not paying anything near 35% hence Warren Buffets statements.
which is why the tax code needs to be overhauled. also, people need to face facts-not all wealthy folks create jobs, or worked hard for their money. we can't keep burying the middle class under all the burdens. 47% of america pays nothing in federal taxes. nothing. of course no one mentions whether they receive 'refunds'. that means just over half the country bears all of the burden. and the burden is getting too big for the 53% who are providing 100% of the money that our fed burns thru.
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Percentages are meaningless unless you have limited rightoffs. They are not paying anything near 35% hence Warren Buffets statements.
Warren Buffett's statement is true because A., he makes all of his money on investments, and B., the capital gains rate is lower than the federal income tax rate paid by his "secretary." It has nothing to do with income tax percentages or "rightoffs" as you put it.

Are you saying that capital gains and dividends should be taxed at the same rate as income? Because if so, that is beyond a horrible idea.
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Warren Buffett's statement is true because A., he makes all of his money on investments, and B., the capital gains rate is lower than the federal income tax rate paid by his "secretary." It has nothing to do with income tax percentages or "rightoffs" as you put it.

Are you saying that capital gains and dividends should be taxed at the same rate as income? Because if so, that is beyond a horrible idea.
Wow. Nice response you try and put words in my mouth without addressing the main point of my message which is 35% is meaningless and just a talking point. They don't pay anything near 35% and probably most receive a refund to boot. If you think that I said "Are you saying that capital gains and dividends should be taxed at the same rate as income?" then no wonder you don't see that these people protesting are protesting for you and I.

Their point is that our government is being bought by special interests and they are making rules that benefit those special interests at our expense. If you think that you are or ever will be part of this 1% then you are delusional. Additionally you and the Dino's of the world may not be directly affected NOW however this is like a cancer. As our economy spirals downwards you and your business will directly be affected. As jobs become scarce and DEFLATION takes hold everything you everyworked for will become worth less and less.
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