Weekend Stakes Beyers

[Round Pen]

WO Woodbine Mile S (G1): Turallure 101
WO Natalma S (G3): Northern Passion 85

Steve One of two things here either the Mile figure of 101 is too high or the Natalma figure of 85 is too low

There was exactly .08 difference in the final time 1:34.92 vs 1:35.00.

I understand one was ran on Sat and the Mile on Sunday. I was not there but I have spoke to our crew there and they tell me the turf was the same on both days. If that is true then one of the figure is off. Not sure which one but I would lean to the side of the Mile figure being to High.

[Calzone Lord]

Not to sound like Jerry Brown, but there are A LOT of different factors that can cause a change in how fast a surface is playing from day to day.

They ran the race Saturday with the rail out 15-feet - and on Sunday they ran it over the course. That is probably way down there on the list of things that can cause a surface to change speed from day-to-day ... each day is its own entity.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Round Pen

WO Woodbine Mile S (G1): Turallure 101
WO Natalma S (G3): Northern Passion 85

Steve One of two things here either the Mile figure of 101 is too high or the Natalma figure of 85 is too low

There was exactly .08 difference in the final time 1:34.92 vs 1:35.00.

I understand one was ran on Sat and the Mile on Sunday. I was not there but I have spoke to our crew there and they tell me the turf was the same on both days. If that is true then one of the figure is off. Not sure which one but I would lean to the side of the Mile figure being to High.

Do you think the Natalma winner would have been in a photo with Turallure and Courageous Cat?

[Round Pen]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Do you think the Natalma winner would have been in a photo with Turallure and Courageous Cat?

Oh yeah thats what I am Saying Please

[Mawhip]

Originally Posted by Round Pen

Oh yeah thats what I am Saying Please

I think that's exactly what you are saying.

[Round Pen]

Originally Posted by Mawhip

I think that's exactly what you are saying.

It is not worth the Effort

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Round Pen

Oh yeah thats what I am Saying Please

But it is what you are saying whether you specifically realize it or not. Questioning figures is good to do, but the questions you ask should be to yourself first, and the first one is the question I asked you. Since I would assume you don't believe she would have been in a photo with them, you then also realize why, despite the times, the figures are significantly different.

Common sense goes a long way towards answering most questions at the racetrack.

[Alabama Stakes]

common sense is the least common thing at the racetrack though. It's generally in short supply everywhere.

[Seattleallstar]

what a pathetic number from Finale, hope hes a better horse than that.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

what a pathetic number from Finale, hope hes a better horse than that.

Yeah, those turf Beyers are the end all, be all.

What is so bad about a 2yo in September running an 80.
Some of the best older Horses in the country are only running around 100.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

what a pathetic number from Finale, hope hes a better horse than that.

He's not.