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Old 08-27-2011, 01:10 PM
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I don't know. I'm too depressed for the teachers in my family after that.
the reason i asked if those teachers worked similar days/hours is how else can you assure a valid comparison? you can't just say they make more and say that is that. if it is not apples to apples, it is not valid
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the reason i asked if those teachers worked similar days/hours is how else can you assure a valid comparison? you can't just say they make more and say that is that. if it is not apples to apples, it is not valid
It's for a year of work. None of them were broken down into payroll periods.

How can that not be valid? Teachers are not paid hourly, they are paid a salary for a "school year", whatever that might be locally. It's clear that in the US we don't value our teachers, financially, as highly as many other countries. That's a shame. If you want the best and brightest in the profession, you treat them well and make the profession respected and admired in society.

In the United States, we blame teachers for causing financial hardships on our local taxing districts (yeah, like they physically go in and steal the money? That it doesn't take the town to tax and decide what to spend on?) and we call them freeloaders and insult them. And bust their unions.
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Old 08-27-2011, 05:05 PM
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of course it matters. whenever it is suggested that school go all year, raher than half, the first things teachers say is they would have to be paid more for working more.
also, what are class sizes elsewhere? benefits, pensions, etc? days off, hours per day worked, planning periods, etc. its all part of the total compensation package.
hamburg jr high and hs teachers have students in their classes for a sum total of four and a half hours a day for 178 days a year~which is less than half of a year. how does that schedule and pay compare to the countries you listed?
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of course it matters. whenever it is suggested that school go all year, raher than half, the first things teachers say is they would have to be paid more for working more.
also, what are class sizes elsewhere? benefits, pensions, etc? days off, hours per day worked, planning periods, etc. its all part of the total compensation package.
hamburg jr high and hs teachers have students in their classes for a sum total of four and a half hours a day for 178 days a year~which is less than half of a year. how does that schedule and pay compare to the countries you listed?
LOL - It looks like you have some detailed investigation to do to find answers to all your questions.

Try searching on each country, and determining their school year, benefits, pension, class size, etc. if you would like to know it.

It's apparent that for a school year, for teachers with 15 years experience, many other countries pay more than the US, whether compared by GDP or even by straight salary.

If you suspect that's not true for some reason, or want to break that information down into hourly salary, etc, do the research and post that for us.
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Old 08-27-2011, 06:39 PM
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no ma'am, i do not have a job ahead of me. it is your assertion that other countries offer higher compensation; the burden of proof falls on you to back up your assertion. its why i asked the question.
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no ma'am, i do not have a job ahead of me. it is your assertion that other countries offer higher compensation; the burden of proof falls on you to back up your assertion. its why i asked the question.
LOL. My "assertion" was posting that other countries pay more for a teacher with 15 years experience, both by GDP and quite a few by straight salary.

You want to rip that data apart, YOU do it.

Edit: and here is the link for the data http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/20...und-the-world/
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Old 08-27-2011, 06:54 PM
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when i post something, i make sure its verified first.
besides, im in chattanooga tn enjoying the bourbon, on my phone, and certainly unable to do your dirty work for you.
time to eat some ribs. when you have complete info, post it.
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