Standard and Poor's downgrades US to AA+

[jms62]

So much time spent affixing blame and so little time on fixing the problem by congress. So much arguing on this thread that not many of you realize that you are getting DP'd.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by jms62

So much time spent affixing blame and so little time on fixing the problem by congress. So much arguing on this thread that not many of you realize that you are getting DP'd.

Oh, no, we've been getting it for the past 12 years, and nobody (including the Dems) are actively doing anything about it. And yes, Clinton started plenty of deregulation.

This congress won't do crap. They are already the second-most do nothing congress in our recent history. A political party publicly stating that their elected legislative duties are only to make sure the President of the United States fails? While this country and it's citizens need help? Eric Cantor just this past weekend saying joblessness is the most important thing, but no, he sees no reason at all to extend jobless benefits? Zero jobs bills presented by the House since they were elected? Zero? Nothing except deliberately removing societal safety backups for those in poverty or unemployed? Harming the very citizens that elected them?

Un-effing-believable.

I'm not a Democratic, but anybody saying that the two current incarnations of our political parties are the same, no difference, isn't very objective.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Oh, no, we've been getting it for the past 12 years, and nobody (including the Dems) are actively doing anything about it. And yes, Clinton started plenty of deregulation.

This congress won't do crap. They are already the second-most do nothing congress in our recent history. A political party publicly stating that their elected legislative duties are only to make sure the President of the United States fails? While this country and it's citizens need help? Eric Cantor just this past weekend saying joblessness is the most important thing, but no, he sees no reason at all to extend jobless benefits? Zero jobs bills presented by the House since they were elected? Zero? Nothing except deliberately removing societal safety backups for those in poverty or unemployed? Harming the very citizens that elected them?

Un-effing-believable.

I'm not a Democratic, but anybody saying that the two current incarnations of our political parties are the same, no difference, isn't very objective.

Stop paying people not to work and they will find jobs. Go compete for work with the illegals. I used to.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Stop paying people not to work and they will find jobs.

What a ridiculous bunch of false nonsense. There are 5-10 people for every job opening. Unemployment is 9.2, but higher considering those that have stopped looking.

And you think that all these people are purposely staying unemployed?

Jeebus, help this country.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

What a ridiculous bunch of false nonsense. There are 5-10 people for every job opening. Unemployment is 9.2, but higher considering those that have stopped looking.

And you think that all these people are purposely staying unemployed?

Jeebus, help this country.

Skipped that last part by accident.
No work in your sector, go compete. Landscape, pick fruit, build fences, follow plumbers around carrying tools and pipe, carry lumber, clean up construction sites, etc. etc. etc.
These are all things I have done to not need to deal with not working. Guess what, the people I worked for were more than happy to take me to work over the alternative.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Skipped that last part by accident.
No work in your sector, go compete. Landscape, pick fruit, build fences, follow plumbers around carrying tools and pipe, carry lumber, clean up construction sites, etc. etc. etc.

That's what plenty of people are trying to do right now. I have people begging me to hire them for this or that odd jobs. There is a recession: there is no construction, there is no plumbing, there is nobody with money to hire you to cut their lawn, there is nobody to hire you to pick crops in the drought of Texas.

It's absolutely absurd, to think that all the current unemployed - far over the baseline number of "always unemployed" that exists around 4% - are unemployed only by choice and sheer laziness.

That is completely disconnected with reality. God help this country with thoughts like that.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

That's what plenty of people are trying to do right now. I have people begging me to hire them for this or that odd jobs. There is a recession: there is no construction, there is no plumbing, there is nobody with money to hire you to cut their lawn, there is nobody to hire you to pick crops in the drought of Texas.

It's absolutely absurd, to think that all the current unemployed - far over the baseline number of "always unemployed" that exists around 4% - are unemployed only by choice and sheer laziness.

That is completely disconnected with reality. God help this country with thoughts like that.

There is construction, if there weren't I would not be paying taxes. I see plenty of people that are most definitely not my neighbors mowing lawns and trimming hedges while driving trucks that say "O'Brien's Landscaping" on the side, not one looks Irish. I am still eating vegatables from the farms that surround my home and ones from California, Florida, North Carolina, etc. Someone is picking these. Texas is irrelevant and should be left out of most conversations involving the rest of the country, they are fine, just ask them. I am imagining your work does not take you around the country to 20-30 states per year and twice as many cities and towns, as I recall you are a veterinarian, but I can assure you that homes are being built and they are being built (mostly) by hard working, non-tax paying, undocumented workers.
Not accusing laziness, just complacency. Easy to confuse the two.