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[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Some of you guys are so desperate to exonerate Obama for this mess, it's sickening. Face it - he was never up to the task of being president. All the window dressing in the world won't make this guy look any better. He's done.

I'd give him a 20% chance of being re-elected if the republicans had a strong candidate. They dont, so I still think its 50/50.

But there are very few people happy with Obama right now. He will have a tough time.

The sad thing is it doesnt really matter.. the next guy will prob be similar to Obama and Bush.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I'd give him a 20% chance of being re-elected if the republicans had a strong candidate. They dont, so I still think its 50/50.

But there are very few people happy with Obama right now. He will have a tough time.

The sad thing is it doesnt really matter.. the next guy will prob be similar to Obama and Bush.

All politicians are alike to some degree. I just want the next guy, and everyone after that, to agree that from now on we spend LESS than we take in, every year, until this debt is gone.

Originally Posted by joeydb

All politicians are alike to some degree. I just want the next guy, and everyone after that, to agree that from now on we spend LESS than we take in, every year, until this debt is gone.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Point taken. I'd be happy to vote for Mr. Paul if he gets the nomination, and could support him in the primary if my state has any say by then.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

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The sad thing is it doesnt really matter.. the next guy will prob be similar to Obama and Bush.

I kind of agree with that and it's sad. I do think America is waking up a bit as demonstrated by the Tea Party. But right now it would be nearly impossible for a platform of raising taxes, to pay down the debt while eliminating most every government program to do the same to be successful. The problem is no one ever refuses a benefit and even if they do (as in the case of Wisconsin's rail money) it's immediately and mindlessly given to someone else.

The fact Obama threatened the military and seniors of not getting their checks unless the ceiling is raised and then the first thing he does once he receives the loan is send $100,000,000.00 to Somalia is sickening! We are broke and sinking and this guy is throwing our life vests off like he's trying to feed the birds.

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