i thought cutting was the goal?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

OK, De-fund ObamaCare and put that in the ashbin, even before it is formally found unconstitutional once and for all. That will save a ton of money.

Repealing "Obamacare" will cost us billions in future savings, according to the CBO.

And the first high level federal court to look at it just deemed it constitutional, with the majority opinion written by a conservative judge who clerked under Scalia.

Sorry.

Why do you want your newly-found consumer protections from insurance companies taking advantage of you repealed? Seems a rather stupid choice to me, that you are voting for going back to kicking young kids with cancer off their policies.

[joeydb]

Bull. That's creative accounting. I don't want the government in charge of my health care. I'll take my chances with an independent corporation that has to compete with other independent corporations.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Bull. That's creative accounting.

Really? Show us how your figures differ from the independent CBO, whose job it is to be far more accurate than people on internet boards.

In fact, the savings are so real, that even Ryan's GOP Budget keeps the savings from the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

I don't want the government in charge of my health care.

Guess what? The government is not in charge of your health care. There is nothing in "Obamacare" that puts the government in charge of your health care.

I'll take my chances with an independent corporation that has to compete with other independent corporations.

Then you should love how "Obamacare" institutes competitive insurance exchanges, where you can shop for competitive pricing on your private company policy.

I am sick of the completely clueless trying to comment on issues of the day. Poll tax.

[Riot]

And this morning we have Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, getting pummeled by his party for capitulating completely and being willing to give up Legislative branch control of debt to a President, publicly revealed that his deficit fix strategy is not to help the country, but to defeat President Obama.

This loser needs to be defeated in a bad way.

Sam Stein stein@huffingtonpost.com
McConnell Debt Ceiling Strategy: 'I Refuse To Help Obama Reelection'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_897124.html

With audio from his talk with Laura Ingram today.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Riot

And this morning we have Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, getting pummeled by his party for capitulating completely and being willing to give up Legislative branch control of debt to a President, publicly revealed that his deficit fix strategy is not to help the country, but to defeat President Obama.

This loser needs to be defeated in a bad way.



With audio from his talk with Laura Ingram today.

You know,Dahling....you need a night in bed with Honula.




That would straighten out yo behind.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

And this morning we have Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, getting pummeled by his party for capitulating completely and being willing to give up Legislative branch control of debt to a President, publicly revealed that his deficit fix strategy is not to help the country, but to defeat President Obama.

This loser needs to be defeated in a bad way.



With audio from his talk with Laura Ingram today.

eight years of bush got us where we are now; why would mcconnell think they've got much of a chance anyway?
his suggestion of giving control on the debt ceiling to obama is a pathetic joke, much like many republican ideas these days.

[Danzig]

http://www.slate.com/id/2299128/

Take Me to Your Leader
The debt-limit talks show Washington's rhetoric to be even more empty than usual.
By John Dickerson
Posted Wednesday, July 13, 2011, at 6:44 PM ET


In the spirit of reducing waste, fraud and abuse in Washington, I suggest a drastic cut in the number of words used by any leader in Washington calling on any other leader in Washington to show leadership. Instead of endless vague generalities, they should just say: Give me what I want.

[dellinger63]

with talk of yet another stimulus the last thing this President needs is a higher debt limit. Maybe the raising of the debt limit and by how much should be a monthly decision until we get it under control and Obama gets control of his habit?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

eight years of bush got us where we are now; why would mcconnell think they've got much of a chance anyway?
his suggestion of giving control on the debt ceiling to obama is a pathetic joke, much like many republican ideas these days.

McConnell stated clearly his goal: he wants politics put first, and that's why he wants to do this, to provide political cover to the GOP.

I think the end of this, middle of next week, will the routine one-sentence clean debt ceiling bill they always pass. What should have happened weeks ago.

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Riot

McConnell stated clearly his goal: he wants politics put first, and that's why he wants to do this, to provide political cover to the GOP.

I think the end of this, middle of next week, will the routine one-sentence clean debt ceiling bill they always pass. What should have happened weeks ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RrQ4FWjijI