Name what you would do to turn the economy around

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by wiphan

If you love this country and what it stands for you would not make a statement like you do above. Stating that no one should make over $1 million a year is absolutely ridiculous. If you truly believe this you should probably move

So, anyone who disagrees with your political views should leave the US? Interesting! As I've stated before, nobody receiving a salary should make over a million, if you want more...start your own business, be creative and innovative and you can earn as much as you make...the American dream is related to being creative, creating jobs, new products and services...our economy is driven by such bold, creative folks, not those who are selected to be CEO's and other upper management folks or sports stars. This country stands for individual freedoms and fairness not getting rich sitting behind a desk reducing everything to dollars and cents or playing games.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

So, anyone who disagrees with your political views should leave the US? Interesting!

LOL - did you see what my completely moronic Senator Rand Paul just said? According to Paul, if you are listening to speeches about violent overthrow of the goverment, you should be arrested.

What a complete jackass.

Google: rand paul speeches overthrow

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

So, anyone who disagrees with your political views should leave the US? Interesting! As I've stated before, nobody receiving a salary should make over a million, if you want more...start your own business, be creative and innovative and you can earn as much as you make...the American dream is related to being creative, creating jobs, new products and services...our economy is driven by such bold, creative folks, not those who are selected to be CEO's and other upper management folks or sports stars. This country stands for individual freedoms and fairness not getting rich sitting behind a desk reducing everything to dollars and cents or playing games.

So if I start my own business you are going to limit what I can pay my employees?

The idea that CEO's simply fall into the positions that they are in is ludicrous.
The idea that all upper management people are over paid buffoons is silly
The idea that sports stars salaries matter to the economy is idiotic. As a matter of fact based on 98% of athletes spending habits they are the ultimate in economic stimulator's.
Fairness can come into play when people start getting off their asses, taking responsibility for their own situations and stop worrying about what someone else is making.

Charlie Finley lives...

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

lil wayne should be forced to give byk his griiizile

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So if I start my own business you are going to limit what I can pay my employees?

The idea that CEO's simply fall into the positions that they are in is ludicrous.
The idea that all upper management people are over paid buffoons is silly
The idea that sports stars salaries matter to the economy is idiotic. As a matter of fact based on 98% of athletes spending habits they are the ultimate in economic stimulator's.
Fairness can come into play when people start getting off their asses, taking responsibility for their own situations and stop worrying about what someone else is making.

Charlie Finley lives...

Yes, if you are foolish enough to pay over a million a year. Not saying they are all baffoons, good ones should be compensated and would be at up to a million a year.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Yes, if you are foolish enough to pay over a million a year. Not saying they are all baffoons, good ones should be compensated and would be at up to a million a year.

why a million? surely people could live on half that? or a quarter of that. i think you're being far too generous. the national average is 50k. i think we should limit top incomes to 100k. yep, that's a good round number.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

why a million? surely people could live on half that? or a quarter of that. i think you're being far too generous. the national average is 50k. i think we should limit top incomes to 100k. yep, that's a good round number.

send the rest to enemy countries and we can be friends with the world!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Yes, if you are foolish enough to pay over a million a year. Not saying they are all baffoons, good ones should be compensated and would be at up to a million a year.

So if I have a really great business and my chief executive is a integral part of its success, and say we had profits of...250 million dollars... He shouldn't be rewarded? I get to keep it?

So if I buy an NFL team for $300 million and get lucky enough to draft a Tom Brady who leads my team to Super bowls and increases the value of the team to say 1 billion dollars, I shouldn't be allowed to pay him more than $999,999?

I'm glad that you are the arbitrator of all salaries in the US and have decided that 1 million is the cut off point. You effectively want to place the entire country under a nationwide salary cap? I just hope I qualify for the mid level exception...

I would limit the owner of a business to two million profit a year and take the rest to fund wars and our excessive cocaine habit...










cause lets face it...only coke heads can f.uck s.hit up this bad.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So if I have a really great business and my chief executive is a integral part of its success, and say we had profits of...250 million dollars... He shouldn't be rewarded? I get to keep it?

So if I buy an NFL team for $300 million and get lucky enough to draft a Tom Brady who leads my team to Super bowls and increases the value of the team to say 1 billion dollars, I shouldn't be allowed to pay him more than $999,999?

I'm glad that you are the arbitrator of all salaries in the US and have decided that 1 million is the cut off point. You effectively want to place the entire country under a nationwide salary cap? I just hope I qualify for the mid level exception...

no, silly....by not paying your big guy so much, you have more to pay the low level workers. duh

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no, silly....by not paying your big guy so much, you have more to pay the low level workers. duh

Trickle down has been proven not to work. The problem, I freely admit, is to find a way to deal with the super rich, excessive salaries is a first step...yes, I think a million a year is plenty for anyone. As I said, if you create jobs, start a new business, or create meaningful innovation, there would be no limit to profits. This concept will never gain popularity in my lifetime, or the lifetimes of my kids and grandkids...maybe someday.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Trickle down has been proven not to work. The problem, I freely admit, is to find a way to deal with the super rich, excessive salaries is a first step...yes, I think a million a year is plenty for anyone. As I said, if you create jobs, start a new business, or create meaningful innovation, there would be no limit to profits. This concept will never gain popularity in my lifetime, or the lifetimes of my kids and grandkids...maybe someday.

you say on one hand no limit to profits, while on the other talking about limiting salaries. you say trickle down doesn't work-so exactly what would be the point of limiting top salaries? all that money wouldn't go elsewhere, so i don't get why you're suggesting it!
like i said, the tax breaks should be to those with money who provide jobs to those who need them. not tax breaks for shelters to grow the wealth, which sits there-or pays for the likes of paris hilton. the rich are those with the means to provide jobs-the trick is to entice them to do so. cutting top salaries isn't how to do it-it's encouraging higher bottom salaries, and more of them. tax breaks for providing benefits, encouraging more employment-not making it more sensible to work the employees you have 80 hours a week to avoid paying ss, workmens comp, and other costs of hiring. it shouldnt be cheaper to pay overtime rather than to hire more, but it is. besides, i'd imagine those top salaries include stock options-start giving some of those to your employees-paying a bit more to those you have makes them happier, and more productive. congress needs to rethink job creation, and taxes.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Trickle down has been proven not to work. The problem, I freely admit, is to find a way to deal with the super rich, excessive salaries is a first step...yes, I think a million a year is plenty for anyone. As I said, if you create jobs, start a new business, or create meaningful innovation, there would be no limit to profits. This concept will never gain popularity in my lifetime, or the lifetimes of my kids and grandkids...maybe someday.

You realize that the "super rich" usually dont work for someone else?

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

So, anyone who disagrees with your political views should leave the US? Interesting! As I've stated before, nobody receiving a salary should make over a million, if you want more...start your own business, be creative and innovative and you can earn as much as you make...the American dream is related to being creative, creating jobs, new products and services...our economy is driven by such bold, creative folks, not those who are selected to be CEO's and other upper management folks or sports stars. This country stands for individual freedoms and fairness not getting rich sitting behind a desk reducing everything to dollars and cents or playing games.

No not my political views, but what the country actually stands for. Last I checked we live in a free country. If you start telling people what they can and can't make you are no longer living in our current country. You have no idea what it is like to be a CEO and what they have to do or give up in their life to do so. It is interesting to me that you think someone who is creative can make $, but a CEO who has the responsibility of employing hundreds of thousands of employees can't. So in your world it is perfectly ok for Mark Zuckerberg to make $13.5 billion, but Lebron James should be limited to $1 million. Makes perfect sense

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

So, anyone who disagrees with your political views should leave the US? Interesting! As I've stated before, nobody receiving a salary should make over a million, if you want more...start your own business, be creative and innovative and you can earn as much as you make...the American dream is related to being creative, creating jobs, new products and services...our economy is driven by such bold, creative folks, not those who are selected to be CEO's and other upper management folks or sports stars. This country stands for individual freedoms and fairness not getting rich sitting behind a desk reducing everything to dollars and cents or playing games.

Halas, Steinbrenner, Davis, Johnson, DiBartolo, McCaskey, Reinsdorf, Cuban et al would have loved you!

Of course a bunch of players would have hated you. But screw the worker!