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Old 06-09-2011, 04:18 PM
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So what you are saying is that the ONLY incentive to "behave responsibly" is re-election? That positions that have term limits must be rife with irresponsible behavior then right?

So Governors and Presidents are immune to this rule?
Good point, I'll change it to say not only, but yes, I think term limits makes one a lame-duck from day one in the last term, and removes nearly all the responsibility for those so inclined.

BTW, McCain's presidential election committee (during the primary) had him running as a "one term and out" promise (because he was old, had cancer, etc. They thought it would help with his election). He got all the way to the day he was going to make that announcement, then they backed off. They determined it would render him mostly useless in office. I agree.
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Old 06-09-2011, 04:26 PM
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Good point, I'll change it to say not only, but yes, I think term limits makes one a lame-duck from day one in the last term, and removes nearly all the responsibility for those so inclined.

BTW, McCain's presidential election committee (during the primary) had him running as a "one term and out" promise (because he was old, had cancer, etc. They thought it would help with his election). He got all the way to the day he was going to make that announcement, then they backed off. They determined it would render him mostly useless in office. I agree.
But the positions where one person has a huge responsibility have term limits yet Congress which is I believe 538 persons doesn't. Wouldn't the fact that a Congressman has but 1 vote out of 538 kind of police non responsible behavior? The Congressmen (and women) that people seem to distrust/dislike the most are the career politicians that are usually from districts/states where they are practically unbeatable. They not only have little worry about reelection, they gain far too much power because of time served. That is what those of us who are for term limits are worried about. If you are a dedicated public servant (lol), then you can serve in another capacity until you run for election again after the next term has been served.
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Old 06-09-2011, 04:40 PM
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But the positions where one person has a huge responsibility have term limits yet Congress which is I believe 538 persons doesn't. Wouldn't the fact that a Congressman has but 1 vote out of 538 kind of police non responsible behavior? .
Good point about Congress and the dilution factor. The Presidency was limited to prevent the creation of a King, wasn't it?
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Old 06-09-2011, 09:43 PM
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Good point about Congress and the dilution factor. The Presidency was limited to prevent the creation of a King, wasn't it?
term limits were put in place because it was felt that since the first president served two terms, that was plenty enough for every president after. thank goodness for george washington; it's amazing the different ideas that were put forth at the time of the beginnings of our govt.
interesting to read tho that pols were already accusing the opposition of attempting to destory the country. some things never change.
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