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Old 06-03-2011, 09:33 PM
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The only way the repubs can lose this is exactly the same way the dems lost 2004. Except the media is pro- Obama.
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Old 06-03-2011, 10:49 PM
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The only way the repubs can lose this is exactly the same way the dems lost 2004. Except the media is pro- Obama.
Um...Fox, WSJ yeah..nice post
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Old 06-03-2011, 11:48 PM
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Yeah Ron Paul isn't a good candidate.


I guess people enjoy being lied to. It's like you don't want to face reality.
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Old 06-04-2011, 07:21 AM
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Put yer money on O!
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Old 06-04-2011, 08:38 AM
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i can't believe no one has yet mentioned libya, our role there, or the lack of communication between the white house and congress. congress rebuked the president yesterday for failing to follow the rules about engagement of troops-not a peep. the patriot act continues, not a whimper. where is all the outrage now? there was plenty when bush was in office, and tyranny was spotted in every move he made. but now? nothing. there are some posters who think obama is doing a great job. at what? what has changed? is the economy better? out of those expensive wars? how's spending? the budget, the deficit? gay rights? gays in the military?
a certain member of congress once went on the record about the debt ceiling, and how having to raise it showed the ineptitude of the govt. boy, that mindset has now changed, hasn't it?

i'm serious tho. what has changed? what sets obama's reign over the previous one? i thought bush sucked. i don't see what's different since he left.
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Old 06-04-2011, 11:21 AM
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i can't believe no one has yet mentioned libya, our role there, or the lack of communication between the white house and congress. congress rebuked the president yesterday for failing to follow the rules about engagement of troops-not a peep. the patriot act continues, not a whimper. where is all the outrage now? there was plenty when bush was in office, and tyranny was spotted in every move he made. but now? nothing. there are some posters who think obama is doing a great job. at what? what has changed? is the economy better? out of those expensive wars? how's spending? the budget, the deficit? gay rights? gays in the military?
a certain member of congress once went on the record about the debt ceiling, and how having to raise it showed the ineptitude of the govt. boy, that mindset has now changed, hasn't it?

i'm serious tho. what has changed? what sets obama's reign over the previous one? i thought bush sucked. i don't see what's different since he left.
Well, there's been a slight change to health care, increased benefits for troops, withdrawal from Iraq, an actual plan to withdraw from Afghanistan, bin Laden fish food....just to name a few. Folks in this country are driven by sound bites and expect immediate results to issues decades in the making. Don't get me wrong, President Obama has dropped the ball a number of times (allowing Bush tax cuts to continue for example) and has been slow to act on gay rights but he needs the help of Congress also. I'll never be satisfied with middle of the road politics but it's better than right wing politics!
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Old 06-04-2011, 11:26 AM
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i can't believe no one has yet mentioned libya, our role there, or the lack of communication between the white house and congress. congress rebuked the president yesterday for failing to follow the rules about engagement of troops-not a peep.
That's because the rebuke was simply a political ploy, a replacement because Boehner feared that Kucinich's "get out of Libya" resolution had enough votes to pass. They created the rebuke rather than tell the President to get out of Libya in literally 15 days. It is all political, not policy.
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Old 06-04-2011, 12:53 PM
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yes, i read that yesterday. but, i dont understand why there is still a lot of 'obama is doing a good job'comments when in fact no headway has been made in our top issues. defenswe spending is still skyhigh, afganistan being ratcheted up is taking whatever savings would have been realized with removing combat troops from iraq...and we are still in iraq btw, which means that is still costing us. afganistan is a huge folly~we need out of there. spening billions on a country worth a few millioms.
obama said years ago that our economy was his number one priority. he has a funny way of showing it. tax revenue, ss revenue down~job growth is what is needed, but his one big effort was on health care~which only helped a fraction of the people compared to un and under employed. i am frustarted with our govt because i see no urgency on their part. nothing has happened economy~wise since the huge stimulus.
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