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Old 06-04-2011, 02:12 PM
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, and Libya was put off on NATO rather than us (and there were plenty of calls by the more hawkish in Congress for us to take control and lead boots on the ground in Libya)
Of the NATO troops KIA this year what percentage of them were American and when killed were they under NATO or U.S. command?
And this is good? How?

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Obama addressed health care as it's expense - private insurance companies, hospitals, the healthcare industry - is 16% of our national economy (more than any other first world nation). He wanted it addressed immediately not as a social, but as an economic issue. He did prolong Medicare by 12 years, cut billions in wasteful spending in that program, and will get 30 million people off freeloading off everyone else and increasing our insurance premiums by getting them their own health care. And the program pays for itself, no tax increases.
Then there should be no problem putting in a stop/loss. However I suspect as the subsidized grow so do the premiums paid by the un-subsidized.

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Do you think the current House (who originates budget measures) would approve any type of spending (stimulus) whatsoever right now?
Of course not because they consider a 17% loss a crazy investment rather than calling it a success.

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We are in a very tenuous recovery, and yet they are actively trying to restrict spending and implement revenue stream decreases! (tax cuts)
Because they believe money in private hands grows the economy rather than Federal businesses like Fannie and Freddie.

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The people currently in control of our financial future in the House have zero incentive to initiate a strong financial recovery. In fact they've publicly stated they don't even have that as their number one goal, and to do so would work against themselves - their primary goal is to prevent Obama's reelection.
Their hands are tied right now by the veto power of the president and the senate. The primary goal is to get untied (the ropes are loosening) so like parents, they can turn on the lights, tell everyone the party's over. Tell those not belonging in the home to go home, and start the cleanup.

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They have proven that by going immediately off on social control tangents (abortion, planned parenthood, defund NPR, etc) and completely ignoring jobs, stimulus, recovery. The Republicans just came out with their "jobs" plan - which is cut taxes for corporations. That's it. Well, Reaganomics and trickle-down was disproven as a viable financial policy a few decades ago. But that is all they are offering.
Again they are trying to save money. Stop the rediculous support of a TV station. How many jobs, tax revenue and income would be raised by opening up Alaska for drilling?


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So I do share your frustration.
I don't think so.
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Old 06-04-2011, 02:15 PM
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I don't think so.
I share 'Zigs frustration in lack of economic recovery.

No, I most certainly do not share your very unique fiscal policy positions.

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How many jobs, tax revenue and income would be raised by opening up Alaska for drilling?
Dell - the oil companies were just renewed for billions in federal tax dollar subsidies to prop up their industry. WE are paying for that! As we are already paying private companies billions in our tax dollars, and based upon their current corporate income tax payments, I doubt they will produce little to any "tax revenue" of note. They will continue to cost us billions of tax dollars, though. How can you not be outraged at this, with your political views? Believe me, if we just gave away - last month! and we are broke! - billions in farm subsidies, or billions in another stimulus, or billions in Medicaid healthcare, you'd be screaming.

Blinkers off, buddy!

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One year after the Deepwater Horizon oil rig exploded and caught fire in the Gulf of Mexico, killing 11 workers and causing the worst accidental marine oil spill in world history, BP posted first-quarter profits of $7.1 billion in 2011—a 17-percent increase over the same quarter in 2010, although 2 percent short of the figure analysts had predicted.

Exxon and Shell did even better. Exxon posted first-quarter profits of $10.65 billion—a 69-percent increase—and Shell's profits rose 33 percent to $11.56 billion.

Oil Subsidies No Longer Needed
Yet with oil companies pocketing record profits, and consumers paying some of the highest prices ever seen for gasoline, Congress continues to provide billions of dollars in taxpayer-financed government subsidies and tax breaks for oil companies while debating how to trim the federal deficit by cutting environmental protections and services for women, children, seniors and the poor.

Republican Budget Proposal Preserves Oil Subsidies
The 2012 budget proposal set forth by U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan, for example, would preserve $40 billion in federal oil-company subsidies over the next 10 years ($4 billion annually) while cutting $389 billion from Medicare for seniors, $735 billion in Medicaid, which provides medical services to Americans too poor to afford private health insurance, and $923 billion in discretionary spending on domestic programs.

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Old 06-04-2011, 07:44 PM
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obama and the dems had two years of full control. they wasted their time, didnt they? anyway, im just angry with the whole bs system. its ridiculous that we are all hampered while politics are played.
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Danny, did you or did you not f..................I withdraw the question.
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Old 06-04-2011, 08:50 PM
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Danny, did you or did you not f..................I withdraw the question.

dumb questions are easier to answer.
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Old 06-04-2011, 09:08 PM
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huh?
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Old 06-04-2011, 09:32 PM
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lol


i don't know what you were about to ask me...how intriguing.
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