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![]() How can it not affect you directly?
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![]() I don't make a mil a year Tim.
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![]() But, I'll bet you're employed by someone who does.
Can't help but feel there is going to be even more unemployment if such a ridiculous tax increase goes through. Where is the incentive for businessmen to grow their businesses?
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![]() moving to lower taxing countries? Similar to why so many wealthy have residences in FL, AZ and Nevada?
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![]() You are correct, this would be the definition of an INDIRECT affect. Let's face it. The GOVT, no matter which party is in charge, is always trying to stick a vacuum cleaner hose in my pockets. Riot and dell may disagree with this statement.
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The difference lays in what we feel is justified to pay, or not ![]()
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![]() the difference lies
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![]() do you pay for your employees' health care?
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![]() trickle down was my thinkin.....throw the stone across the pond...ripples!
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![]() yes, because we all know that when we give rich folks more money they will share it with the middle class and the poor by creating more well paying jobs and increasing benefits...they are all really secret Santas!
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![]() No... but they're not the Klingon Empire either!
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![]() In the future, the Klingons become our friends, the rich will never be friends of the poor.
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![]() Somer: way too cynical for someone with your breadth of knowledge
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They earned the money. Why should they part with more of it (as a percentage) than anyone else? |
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![]() ^^^^ No. 50 on the 100 Richest People in the World list. Small wonder. |
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![]() As Mr Spock would say..."the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few". Especially in this case when the rich don't "need", they covet. In the end, one either favors possessions or people. Talk of what is "fair" to one group at the expense of another is inherently "unfair"...such is the world, not a black and white place but one filled with shades of grey.
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If I am to "earn" a large paycheck, and 62% of it is forcibly taken from me, why the hell would I work hard enough to do that again? I'd work enough to earn a figure in a lower bracket - which I can do, due to the ludicrous progressive tax system. So then it is not just I who lost the income, but also the government. This is one of the mechanisms by which higher tax rates often yield lower revenues. Another mechanism is that I simply move my business out of the country and avoid this confiscatory tax. You cannot define what is "fair", especially, as you point out, when the costs are assigned to one group and the benefits are assigned to another non-overlapping group. This is why we need a flat tax: everyone paying the same rate. Earn twice as much, pay twice as much. Earn half as much, pay half as much. Put in a poverty exclusion - like not taxing the first $50,000 or something. Because we can define what is proportional, and that often syncs up with what most people would agree is fair. By the way, on a more frivolous note: I am a huge Star Trek fan. When Spock said that statement it was in reference to whether he or Kirk should command the ship since Spock was acting captain, Kirk was an admiral and normally would not interfere, but of course, as always, a critical mission came up. I don't think it was a wholesale endorsement of redistributing wealth. |
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![]() A lot of people can't seem to understand the difference between money "earned", and money "received". Instead of jacking up the taxes on the "rich" let's start taxing the 47% of the citizens who pay no income taxes at all. Money isn't really worth the same amount everywhere in the country. Someone making $100 grand a year may be just scraping by in Manhatten, but where I live they would be doing pretty good. Del is right about the hyper spending Govt. they are spending $$ faster than they can beg, borrow, steal, or print it. They were aware of the Debt ceiling when they were breaking spending records for the last few years. They should have mentioned it when they were coming up with trillion dollar spending sprees. If you can't afford it don't buy it. They said America could afford it, and the people bought it. The only way to force the Govt. to spend within their means is to leave the Debt ceiling alone. Throwing $$ at this countries problems isn't helping. It seems to be having the opposite effect.
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