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Old 05-25-2011, 10:26 PM
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This is the grand slam of ridiculous links

A letter to the editor? LOL
Considering it points out all the pertinent concerns, and is factually correct, yup. Feel free to ignore that one if you wish. You can read one of the other thousand newspaper articles on the web about it.
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Old 05-25-2011, 10:57 PM
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Considering it points out all the pertinent concerns, and is factually correct, yup. Feel free to ignore that one if you wish. You can read one of the other thousand newspaper articles on the web about it.
Uh it is a letter to the editor, not an "article". Of course union blogs arent exactly an unbiased source of news either.

Asking people for a photo ID to prove that they are who they say they are is hardly discriminatory regardless of how it is being spun. This is 2011, getting a gov't issued photo ID is hardly difficult or beyond just about anyone's capabilities.
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Old 05-25-2011, 11:23 PM
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Asking people for a photo ID to prove that they are who they say they are is hardly discriminatory regardless of how it is being spun.
And if that were the only change in the law, I doubt anyone would care. But it's not. By a long shot.

Do you think it's fair that students have to show a receipt for current paid tuition in addition to a photo ID that can't be their school ID because the school ID's do not fit the criteria the Republicans wrote into the law, chosen on purpose so students couldn't use them?

Yeah. It's oh so fair.

This is just another reason why the Republican party is headed into the political wilderness. Here's the main reason http://www.frumforum.com/paul-ryan-2012s-goldwater
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And if that were the only change in the law, I doubt anyone would care. But it's not. By a long shot.

Do you think it's fair that students have to show a receipt for current paid tuition in addition to a photo ID that can't be their school ID because the school ID's do not fit the criteria the Republicans wrote into the law, chosen on purpose so students couldn't use them?

Yeah. It's oh so fair.

This is just another reason why the Republican party is headed into the political wilderness. Here's the main reason http://www.frumforum.com/paul-ryan-2012s-goldwater
I dont think college kids who aren't residents of the state they go to school in should be voting. If they are residents they most likely would have a drivers license. Plus exactly how hard is it to get a receipt? It isn't as though the school wont give you a copy if you request it.

The idea that this is such a huge outrage is silly. The GOP wants to do things that will help them get elected, plain and simple. Just like the other side does.
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Old 05-26-2011, 06:27 AM
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i'm pretty sure students who move out of state could vote by absentee ballot in their home state. perhaps that's the purpose of not taking a college id? after all, if a student is paying higher out of state tuition, he's not a citizen of said state, is he?
i don't see the big issue here at all. other states are either already requiring id, or in the process of doing so.
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Old 05-26-2011, 07:53 AM
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i'm pretty sure students who move out of state could vote by absentee ballot in their home state. perhaps that's the purpose of not taking a college id? after all, if a student is paying higher out of state tuition, he's not a citizen of said state, is he?
i don't see the big issue here at all. other states are either already requiring id, or in the process of doing so.
except they do take college ID's

no big issue except Riot is extremely obsessed with a state she doesnt live in.
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Old 05-26-2011, 11:20 AM
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except they do take college ID's

no big issue except Riot is extremely obsessed with a state she doesnt live in.
And if you read the article I posted, the college ID's in Wisconsin do not meet the requirements of a "college ID" in the new law, and never will. So they are useless to allow a student to vote.

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But there's a catch: the student IDs must include a current address, birth date, signature and expiration date -- requirements no college or university in Wisconsin currently meets.
Students also have to show "proof of current paid enrollment" - meaning they have to bring a receipt for their paid tuition with them to the polls.

I care very deeply when the RGA has a goal to altering and restricting voting rights across this country.

To say I shouldn't care about what happens in this country because I don't live next door to it is silly.

This is insidious and nasty. I didn't live through the civil rights struggle, but I sure lived through women trying to get equal rights, and blacks still trying, and gays trying - and supporting the Republican goal to disenfranchise whole blocks of voters before the 2012 election, so they have a better chance of winning against permanent changing US demographics, is abhorrent and wrong. Voting tests are wrong. Poll taxes are wrong. Making it harder for US citizens to vote is wrong.
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