Obamacare a glimpse in the future

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Originally Posted by joeydb

Riot made me laugh saying "Now people can pay for insurance." Oh yeah? You mean the subsidized cost. It always costs the taxpayers more and more, and to give the needy more means to give the productive less.

No. That is NOT what we are talking about. That is what you are uneducated about. You imply or perhaps wrongly think that 100% of those newly getting insurance - the 30 million - will be taxpayer supported. That's not true. It's NOT TRUE.

Most will be self-pay and purchase their own insurance without any subsidy, due to new availability for purchase on exchanges. Most of those people are only not currently insured because insurance companies don't want to bother to insure them. Not because they are on Medicaid, or are poor, or don't have the money to buy a normal amount of insurance.

And what do you think about the millions in Medicare waste that are eliminated by the PPACA?

The PPACA is not "socialized medicine", nor is it huge new taxpayers subsidies. It is insurance reform of the private insurance industry.

You make me laugh when you repeat talking points, that the facts don't support. Why don't you go look up the costs of the PPACA? And where the funding comes from? Tell me the increase in costs to taxpayers? It's clearly outlined, and the CBO has addressed it in detail. So those figures on the costs of the PPACA are very easy to obtain. Because you are clearly seriously uninformed about "what the taxpayers are paying for" with it. There is no increase in taxpayer payment. Period.

It's nice to keep repeating an argument about concern for taxpayers, but not when it's false. The PPACA is no giant givaway of health care to "needy". These blatent falsehoods about the PPACA keep being perpetuated, and it has to stop.