Democracy In Egypt

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

It would be a mistake to trust those communities to act like civilized human beings.

The same can be said on many college campuses in this country after a big game...fires, riots, looting. I don't think you can judge all students of a particular school based on the actions of a lawless few. I don't defend lawlessness anywhere, but I don't think you can paint with such a broad brush.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

The same can be said on many college campuses in this country after a big game...fires, riots, looting. I don't think you can judge all students of a particular school based on the actions of a lawless few. I don't defend lawlessness anywhere, but I don't think you can paint with such a broad brush.

they've painted themselves. Of course not everyone is a bad guy.. but the bad outweigh the good over in the Middle East.

Its crazy that people are so PC that they bury their heads in the sand and act like there isnt a Muslim problem in this world. it's crazy also that there are insensitive people who try to equate college parties and looting to gang rape by 200-300 Middle Eastern Muslim men in the middle of a town square.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

they've painted themselves. Of course not everyone is a bad guy.. but the bad outweigh the good over in the Middle East.

Its crazy that people are so PC that they bury their heads in the sand and act like there isnt a Muslim problem in this world. it's crazy also that there are insensitive people who try to equate college parties and looting to gang rape by 200-300 Middle Eastern Muslim men in the middle of a town square.

And it's also crazy that some folks can't read a post without translating everything to suit their own mindset...nobody is equating one with the other...the post was in regards to an earlier post which said it's a mistake to expect "those communities" to act like civilized human beings. The campus riots are not an example of acting like "civilized human beings", I could also mention other examples such as the Harlem riots in the 60's and the Watts riots, ever witness the KKK in action? The point, which you deliberately distort is not to equate which events are worse but to show that all societies, even ours, has it's share of lawless idiots. In the Soviet Union before the fall of same, they took advantage of any misbehavior in this country to brand America as a lawless society. Folks who want to demonize Islam based on misbehavior of some are doing exactly the same thing. Calling me and others who express similar views crazy and insensitive might make you feel good but it doesn't change the facts...there are good folks and there are bad folks everywhere and we aren't so perfect and highly evolved that we can point the finger at other cultures, religions and peoples.

[Antitrust32]

extremely predictable response. "Everyone does it!"

When a religion with a highly questionable Prophet has 1.5 billion followers... and 10% of that population supports an extreme verison, it's a huge fucl<ing problem. Especially when that extreme version makes you want to be a martyr, and kill anyone who doesnt believe as you do. I guess because I recognize the current Muslim problem in the world, I now must list every problem with society in the history of civilization. I'm not currently concerned about the Soviet Union, which doesnt even exist right now. We have 3 wars right now that have a common theme.. Muslims (oh thats right I forgot, America is actually the bad guy, right?)

[Antitrust32]

and it doesnt make me feel good to call you insensitive. It makes me feel kind of sick that a large sector of this country believes the same **** that you and Riot spew when it comes to this topic. Riot actually believes that there are only a "couple hundred" evil Muslims in the world.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

and it doesnt make me feel good to call you insensitive. It makes me feel kind of sick that a large sector of this country believes the same **** that you and Riot spew when it comes to this topic. Riot actually believes that there are only a "couple hundred" evil Muslims in the world.

I can't speak for Riot, I know there are a hell of a lot of evil Muslims, I know we are fighting evil Muslims in three wars but again it says something when you call Islam a religion with "a highly questionable Prophet"....as opposed Jesus? John the Baptist? The thing with the world's major religions, they all have different beliefs and they all are sure their's is the only true path to the divine. It wouldn't be so bad except for the fact that folks feel the necessity to convert everyone to their "true path". Radical Islam is indeed a world-wide indignity to all peace loving folks, and cultural norms are no defense for violence against anyone. One more time, it isn't a matter of keeping score....my religion, culture, society etc has more or less violence than yours, but a matter of accepting that no religion, culture or society is perfect and that individuals not groups are either good or evil.

[Antitrust32]

listen I'm not a Christian, Muslim, Buddist, Witch, Jewish or anything.

But I'm pretty sure Jesus's message was a lot better than Mohammed's.

Now Moses on the other hand is pretty darn similar to Mohammed. I dont think Moses was any good at all.

But its hard to go against Jesus's message of love. The Christian "God" of the old testament was not very nice or loving.

But like I said before.. I dont believe in anything organized. I dont believe in an invisible dude in the sky. I dont believe in heaven or hell or an afterlife, other than your own body's energy absorbed back into the earth through decomposition. But I do believe, in fairy tale land, that Jesus > Mohammad & Moses


Its hard not to keep score when there are millions of people in this world who want you DEAD. Christians dont want me to get married, but they dont want me dead.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Riot actually believes that there are only a "couple hundred" evil Muslims in the world.

How ridiculous. No, I don't, and I've never said that (geeshus cripes, some of you can't even read words well). I said there are only a couple hundred Al Quaeda terrorists at this point. I said nothing at all about other terrorists, other organizations, other countries. And I wasn't talking about "Muslims" - I was talking about terrorists.

I'm just not stupid enough to believe "10% of all Muslims on the planet" are evil because I read that made-up-out-of-thin-air number on a silly right wing internet blog, and I'm gullible.

Its crazy that people are so PC that they bury their heads in the sand and act like there isnt a bigot problem in this world.

And anybody that thinks that this post is defending the Egyptians who attacked the reporter are beyond stupid.