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randallscott35 02-15-2011 07:36 PM

Democracy In Egypt
 
Jeez

http://www.tmz.com/2011/02/15/lara-l...pt-60-minutes/

randallscott35 02-15-2011 07:43 PM

Remind me please of another country who celebrates their "freedom" with an organized rape? I'm sure they will be bringing those responsible to justice soon.

Riot 02-15-2011 08:54 PM

Yeah, because the hundreds of thousands who protested peacefully and non-violently for 18 days - including women and children in the square - don't represent the country, while the acts of a few do.

Yeah, that's never happened in the United States, women getting attacked and raped after football celebrations, during street parades/parties, etc.

Glad she'll be okay.

randallscott35 02-15-2011 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 752771)
Yeah, because the hundreds of thousands who protested peacefully and non-violently for 18 days don't represent the country, while the acts of a few do.

Yeah, that's never happened in the United States, women getting attacked and raped after football celebrations, during street parades/parties, etc.

Glad she'll be okay.

You repulse me.

Riot 02-15-2011 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 752780)
You repulse me.

Ditto. What about the soldiers and women who saved her - they get no credit for being "that country celebrating democracy"?

Coach Pants 02-15-2011 09:14 PM

She was asking for it.

dellinger63 02-15-2011 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 752771)
Yeah, because the hundreds of thousands who protested peacefully and non-violently for 18 days - including women and children in the square - don't represent the country, while the acts of a few do.

Yeah, that's never happened in the United States, women getting attacked and raped after football celebrations, during street parades/parties, etc.

Glad she'll be okay.

This happened Friday and went unreported for 5 days with live streaming video of Anderson Copper being shoved and giving back a bittch slap? Either CBS sux or something is up? Guess CBS and the rest of the media felt the protesters (Muslim Brotherhood) overturn of the government trumps a little old rape, heck even Obama praised them with no mention of this woman. At least her head is still on I guess. And Riot your excuse "Yeah, that's never happened in the United States, women getting attacked and raped after football celebrations, during street parades/parties, etc." is despicable.

BTW Glad your glad she’ll be OK. :zz:

WTF?????? I now believe you haven't a clue of what forcible rape is?

Glad she'll be OK? Yea wrap it up and get back in the game.

Coach Pants 02-15-2011 09:49 PM

Supreme Allah says that b.itch had it comin' to her for being white.

dellinger63 02-15-2011 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 752801)
Supreme Allah says that b.itch had it comin' to her for being white.

if it were Al Qaeda instead of the Muslim Brotherhood it would have been her head instead of 'Glad she'll be OK'. So there is a bright side. ;)

dalakhani 02-15-2011 10:05 PM

I don't recall ever hearing of a situation where a reporter was raped covering an event regardless of how out of control the crowd became.

I don't think this says anything about Egyptians as a whole but it does give insight into the chaotic and savage behavior of some of the rioters.

Riot 02-15-2011 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 752799)
This happened Friday and went unreported for 5 days with live streaming video of Anderson Copper being shoved and giving back a bittch slap? Either CBS sux or something is up? Guess CBS and the rest of the media felt the protesters (Muslim Brotherhood) overturn of the government trumps a little old rape, heck even Obama praised them with no mention of this woman. At least her head is still on I guess. And Riot your excuse "Yeah, that's never happened in the United States, women getting attacked and raped after football celebrations, during street parades/parties, etc." is despicable.

BTW Glad your glad she’ll be OK. :zz:

WTF?????? I now believe you haven't a clue of what forcible rape is?

Glad she'll be OK? Yea wrap it up and get back in the game.

You're an idiot, Dell. I'm glad she wasn't killed. She's alive, and lucky to be so, and lucky to get out of the hospital. I wasn't making light of her attack.

There were other reporters there, who were taken by the police, held and beaten.

You think all those protesters were Muslim Brotherhood? If so, you're clueless.

You guys who want to slam all Egyptians because of what happened to that poor reporter, but fail to acknowledge violent people can be everywhere - that's what's despicable. That was no "excuse", Dell, it's true. But let's not let that get in the way of hating Muslims. Even the ones that saved her from her attackers.

Danzig 02-15-2011 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 752808)
I don't recall ever hearing of a situation where a reporter was raped covering an event regardless of how out of control the crowd became.

I don't think this says anything about Egyptians as a whole but it does give insight into the chaotic and savage behavior of some of the rioters.

i don't either. another shock is finding that many countries still don't consider that a crime. how awful for her; altho she is lucky not to have been killed, that attack will haunt her forever.

Princess Doreen 02-15-2011 10:28 PM

I can't help but think what hell there would be to pay if a Muslim woman was raped by a few thugs hanging out in a peaceful tea party gathering.

Danzig 02-15-2011 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 752816)
I can't help but think what hell there would be to pay if a Muslim woman was raped by a few thugs hanging out in a peaceful tea party gathering.

if it were here, it would be prosecuted as it should be. in some places, she'd be on trial, which is a damnable shame.



unless it was ben roethlisberger..than there wouldn't be enough dna, and the tape would mysteriously be erased!!

Riot 02-15-2011 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen (Post 752816)
I can't help but think what hell there would be to pay if a Muslim woman was raped by a few thugs hanging out in a peaceful tea party gathering.

Seriously, Doreen? You really think these two situations are remotely similar?

The guys at the Rand Paul rally who threw that small woman to the ground and stomped on her are doing just fine, aren't they? In fact, the guy who did the head stomping publicly demanded an apology from his victim. Do those losers represent all Rand Paul supporters? Libertarians? Tea Party supporters?

Riot 02-15-2011 10:47 PM

CBC:
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Sexual harassment of women is an all-too-common occurrence on the streets of Cairo. But many women noted a complete absence of it in the early days of protests in Tahrir Square, where demonstrators made a point of trying to create a microcosm of the society without many of Egypt's social ills.

However, in the final days, and especially after the battles with pro-Mubarak gangs who attacked the protesters in Tahrir, women noticed sexual assault had returned to the square. On the day Mubarak fell, women reported being groped by the rowdy crowds. One witness saw a woman slap a man after he touched her. The man was then passed down a line of people who all slapped him and reprimanded him.

The attack on Logan, CBS News' chief foreign affairs correspondent, was one of at least 140 others suffered by reporters covering the unrest in Egypt since Jan. 30, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists. An Egyptian reporter died from gunshot wounds he received during the protests.

A week before Friday's attack, Logan was detained by the Egyptian military for a day, along with a CBS producer and cameraman. They returned to the U.S. after their release, and Logan went back to Cairo shortly before Mubarak left.

Logan joined CBS News in 2002. She regularly reports for the CBS Evening News as well as 60 Minutes, where she has been a correspondent since 2006. She has reported widely from Iraq and Afghanistan, and other global trouble spots.

CBS said it had no further comment on Logan's assault.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/arts/media/story/2...#ixzz1E5t9cWSS

Riot 02-16-2011 12:13 AM

"What not to say about Lara Logan"

http://www.salon.com/news/media_crit..._rape_reaction

Antitrust32 02-16-2011 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 752714)
Remind me please of another country who celebrates their "freedom" with an organized rape? I'm sure they will be bringing those responsible to justice soon.

And just think... its not in Egypt (yet.. and hopefully will not get to that point) but with Sharia law, the victim of the rape gets in trouble!

http://news.lawreader.com/?p=457

http://www.aina.org/news/20081117111817.htm

^ in the last one a young girl was ganged raped and then stoned to death for "fornication"

Antitrust32 02-16-2011 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 752771)
Yeah, because the hundreds of thousands who protested peacefully and non-violently for 18 days - including women and children in the square - don't represent the country, while the acts of a few do.

Yeah, that's never happened in the United States, women getting attacked and raped after football celebrations, during street parades/parties, etc.

Glad she'll be okay.

this has to be one of the worst reponses I've ever seen on a message board.

Princess Doreen 02-16-2011 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 752819)
Seriously, Doreen? You really think these two situations are remotely similar?

The guys at the Rand Paul rally who threw that small woman to the ground and stomped on her are doing just fine, aren't they? In fact, the guy who did the head stomping publicly demanded an apology from his victim. Do those losers represent all Rand Paul supporters? Libertarians? Tea Party supporters?

No - not remotely similar. I was talking about a Muslim woman being raped. But, now that you mention it, it's an instance like what happened at the Rand Paul rally that gets all non-Democrats labeled as rabble rousers and **** disturbers with Nancy Lugosi leading the chant.


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