Wait On That Abortion

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Originally Posted by joeydb

Well, I don't know any better than you do what form ObamaCare will ultimately take if not repealed..

Complete nonsense. Try reading it. It's already law. It's been law for a year. It's not speculation. There is no silly guessing "what form it could take" - the form is already law and is currently in effect.

There is no need to lie and "speculate" about the PPACA. It is concrete and done. You could read the actual law on the internet today, and note that it is specific within the law, in addition to the provisions of the Hyde Amendment, that no federal funds have been, or will be, used for abortion, either within the PPACA or without (Planned Parenthood for example).

Geeshus cripes, the facts drive some crazy. The far right wing fear machine is still attacking some imaginary, made-up enemy. They look beyond absurd.

You want "death panels"? Look at Arizona, where Gov. Jan Brewer removed state funding for transplants for those on state medical care, and two people have already died.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

Complete nonsense. Try reading it. It's already law. It's been law for a year. It's not speculation. There is no silly guessing "what form it could take" - the form is already law and is currently in effect.

There is no need to lie and "speculate" about the PPACA. It is concrete and done. You could read the actual law on the internet today, and note that it is specific within the law, in addition to the provisions of the Hyde Amendment, that no federal funds have been, or will be, used for abortion, either within the PPACA or without (Planned Parenthood for example).

Geeshus cripes, the facts drive some crazy. The far right wing fear machine is still attacking some imaginary, made-up enemy. They look beyond absurd.

You want "death panels"? Look at Arizona, where Gov. Jan Brewer removed state funding for transplants for those on state medical care, and two people have already died.

So I should read it but the geniuses who passed it without reading it didn't have to? Brilliant.

You know full well that there will be continued legal wrangling to support abortion under the ObamaCare umbrella. The president's symbolic executive order is meaningless, and the ObamaCare advocates have stated that they don't think the Hyde amendment applies. Henry Waxman is on record as wanting to get abortion covered under this health care monstrosity.

It would not surprise me one bit that in this 2000+ page law that there is some poison pill that will somehow mandate that abortion be covered.

So spare me your condescension and B.S.

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Originally Posted by joeydb

So I should read it but the geniuses who passed it without reading it didn't have to? Brilliant.

Who, exactly, out of all the Senators and Congressmen, are you referring to? Care to name specific names, please?

It was pretty hilarious recently when Michelle Bachmann started screaming about "secret funding" (that wasn't secret, nor a slush fund) Strangely, she was not embarrassed.

You know full well that there will be continued legal wrangling to support abortion under the ObamaCare umbrella.

No, there won't. Because there's nothing in the PPACA that remotely provides for abortion.

The president's symbolic executive order is meaningless,

What president's executive order are you talking about?

and the ObamaCare advocates have stated that they don't think the Hyde amendment applies.

Who? Which advocates? Name names, and name their statements.

What crazy fact-bereft blog are you reading?

Henry Waxman is on record as wanting to get abortion covered under this health care monstrosity.

Yet it is not covered. That would take a change to the law, wouldn't it?

It would not surprise me one bit that in this 2000+ page law that there is some poison pill that will somehow mandate that abortion be covered.

You'd think the rabid anti-abortion crowd would have found that during the past year, wouldn't they? They have not, because it does not exist.

So spare me your condescension and B.S.

No. You want to argue the healthcare law and abortion, YOU are responsible for knowing the facts and truth of the matter.

You want to come in blazing with false statements, don't get pissed when you are called out on it.