3/26 (TP): Spiral, Bourbonette (G3's); Rushaway, Hansel, Queen

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Actually, I don't agree. Most of those older Euro sires got on there because they can be found in the pedigrees of 20th century Kentucky Derby winners.

Look at recently named CDRs and all you'll see is a few curious choices like In The Wings and Niniski.

In The Wings, never an important sire, got one good horse and that was Singspiel, also an indifferent sire. However, In The Wings was made a CDR because he was allegedly Sadler's Wells "best sire son". I presume they just wanted to bolster Sadler's Wells's resume for CDR status as he was belatedly placed on the list.

Of course, anyone who even remotely follows international racing knows that Sadler's Wells most important sons have proven to be Galileo and Montjeu, who combined, practically account for 75% of the Classic starters in Europe (and that's barely an exaggeration). And yet neither horse is a CDR yet. Would you really downgrade a horse by either of those 2 stallions simply because they are not CDRs? I would hope not. German stallion Acatenango (along with fellow Germans Lomitas and Monsun) is pretty much in the same boat.

Going back to the topside of Animal Kingdom's pedigree, we have illustrated another short coming of "dosage", namely the female influence. Leroidesanimaux is, as someone mentioned, closely related to the great broodmare Hasili, whose offspring have won important stakes ranging from 6.5f to 12f.

And yet his pedigree is weak.

Another factor I try to employ in handicapping two year old races and grade ones is the work done by the Parkers in designating "Reines-de-Course". Lesser known than Chefs, this is a list of the most influential broodmares in history and is likewise cumbersome but worthwhile when looking at breeding imo. They currently have about 800 mares so designated. Rather than post the list here I'll refer you to their website if interested. http://www.reines-de-course.com/ Hasili is on their list by the way but I must ask, how is she closely related to Leroidesanimaux?