French jets protecting Libyan rebels

Cannon Shell · #1 03-21-2011, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Many of us care deeply about the horrors in places like the Sudan and throughout Africa, the US has spoken out against these crimes but without support from the rest of the world, any attempts by us to stop them is seen as aggression. It is confusing when on the one hand people are critical of the President for taking part in this UN resolution and at the same time are critical of the US failure to act in other places...it seems only fair to ask, do you want us to get involved everywhere, nowhere or what??

A difference between the Sudan and Libya is that one has a fairly modern army/air force, the other is killing people with machetes. No fly zones dont work well when there are no planes to ground.

somerfrost · #2 03-21-2011, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

A difference between the Sudan and Libya is that one has a fairly modern army/air force, the other is killing people with machetes. No fly zones dont work well when there are no planes to ground.

This is true, to intervene in the Sudan would take "boots on the ground" and that's a whole other can of worms.

Danzig · #3 03-21-2011, 08:38 PM

i like explosions and almost wish i'd gone into that type of career, but to what end are we engaged in libya? what's the aim, what's the point? what are we trying to accomplish with this action? i'm no fan of qaddafi, and don't care if he shuffles off this mortal coil tomorrow. but i'm not sure exactly what we're trying to do, or who we're trying to aid.

timmgirvan · #4 03-21-2011, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig

i like explosions and almost wish i'd gone into that type of career, but to what end are we engaged in libya? what's the aim, what's the point? what are we trying to accomplish with this action? i'm no fan of qaddafi, and don't care if he shuffles off this mortal coil tomorrow. but i'm not sure exactly what we're trying to do, or who we're trying to aid.

the prevailing theory is that we're saving his people from him! Rumors of WMDs used against his own people are starting to hit the airwaves.....and he's nutty enuf to go up in a ball of flames at the end anyway!

dalakhani · #5 03-21-2011, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

the prevailing theory is that we're saving his people from him! Rumors of WMDs used against his own people are starting to hit the airwaves.....and he's nutty enuf to go up in a ball of flames at the end anyway!

I don't know why, but that sounds vaguely familiar...

timmgirvan · #6 03-21-2011, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I don't know why, but that sounds vaguely familiar...

the Arab papers are saying it not Americans....smartass!

hi_im_god · #7 03-21-2011, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

the Arab papers are saying it not Americans....smartass!

my local paper suggests his droopy melting wax face and dangerous facial hair were about to be used against his people.

i admit i just phoned this one in.

somerfrost · #8 03-21-2011, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig

i like explosions and almost wish i'd gone into that type of career, but to what end are we engaged in libya? what's the aim, what's the point? what are we trying to accomplish with this action? i'm no fan of qaddafi, and don't care if he shuffles off this mortal coil tomorrow. but i'm not sure exactly what we're trying to do, or who we're trying to aid.

well, we have this crazy ruthless dictator who has repeatedly threatened to kill thousands (or more) of his own people and has unleashed his military on them, we have the power to neutralize his military's ability to carry out this genocide. What ultimately happens to him and what course his nation eventually takes is not our immediate concern.

hi_im_god · #9 03-21-2011, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost

well, we have this crazy ruthless dictator who has repeatedly threatened to kill thousands (or more) of his own people and has unleashed his military on them, we have the power to neutralize his military's ability to carry out this genocide. What ultimately happens to him and what course his nation eventually takes is not our immediate concern.

i don't know why but this sounds vaguely familiar.

jms62 · #10 03-22-2011, 05:21 AM

Obama needs to focus on the Genocide going on in his own country. Genocide against the middle class.

joeydb · #11 03-22-2011, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62

Obama needs to focus on the Genocide going on in his own country. Genocide against the taxpayer.

Fixed that for you.

SCUDSBROTHER · #12 03-22-2011, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig

i like explosions and almost wish i'd gone into that type of career, but to what end are we engaged in libya? what's the aim, what's the point? what are we trying to accomplish with this action? i'm no fan of qaddafi, and don't care if he shuffles off this mortal coil tomorrow. but i'm not sure exactly what we're trying to do, or who we're trying to aid.

What? He was about to kill 50.k-100k people. Said he was gunna go house to house etc. If you don't see stopping that as being an important goal, then, o.k. No, they aren't slaughtering numbers like that in Bahrain, or Yemen. The reason we've struggled in both Iraq and Afghanistan is because the population didn't want us there. Look, from what we've seen, the Americans and the Euros actually hit some targets, and did some damage. That's a half miracle in itself. I say we gave them a chance. Tell ya what the smartest thing to do is. This Turk cockroach wants into the E.U. (real badly.) Need to get the Germans n' French to let him into the E.U. ( in return for Turkish troops coming in to force a ceasefire. ) We, and the Euros get out. Getting the French n' Germans to let the Turks join the E.U. will be difficult though.

#13 03-23-2011, 12:17 AM

The grandiose Gaddafi exaggerates and intimidates. He loves the spotlight and loves to play the villain.

He's a lightweight for a dictator. There isn't a solid plan to take him out of power. What we're doing is wasting money and making him and his associates money.

somerfrost · #14 03-23-2011, 03:15 PM

UN forces announced today that Libyan airforce and air defense systems have been totally destroyed/ rendered useless and emphasis is now shifting to ground forces.

jms62 · #15 03-23-2011, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost

UN forces announced today that Libyan airforce and air defense systems have been totally destroyed/ rendered useless and emphasis is now shifting to ground forces.

Great.. Barrack will borrow a page from GWB and declare victory!!! And 10 years later and countless hundreds of BILLIONS we will still be there.