Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker

[Riot]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

the whole concept of the union is to coerce or bully another party to get their way. whether its a state or government body or a company, the union basically puts a gun to their head and says you'll give us these wages and benefits or else we'll shut everything down. physical violence and intimidation are all part of their sop.

Not very common in current times, especially with those unions who are prevented by contract from striking, but hey, hyperbole helps the case I guess.

The weeks of peaceful, non-violent protest in Wisconsin, for example. Yeah, lots of "physical violence" "beating" and "intimidation" going on there

Down with unions! They are the current fad scapegoat! Kindergarten teachers suck and threaten me! The Republicans told me so!

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Not very common in current times, especially with those unions who are prevented by contract from striking, but hey, hyperbole helps the case I guess.

The weeks of peaceful, non-violent protest in Wisconsin, for example. Yeah, lots of "physical violence" "beating" and "intimidation" going on there

Down with unions! They are the current fad scapegoat! Kindergarten teachers suck and threaten me! The Republicans told me so!

If you believe that the people are being peaceful and non threatening you really are a fool. Any one ever threaten your life or your family? I know that would not be considered peaceful in my world

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

If you believe that the people are being peaceful and non threatening you really are a fool.

You simply can't have a political discussion without calling names, can you?

I've watched tons of YouTube videos and news converage of the protests at Wisconsin, and have talked to friends that attended. Peaceful and non-threatening is a terrific description of the hundreds of thousands of people that attended, and you know it.

Yeah, there are always a few idiots who break the law, and they should be pursued. Were they the majority in Wisconsin? Nope - there were only a few. Out of hundreds of thousands.

So don't try to paint the Wisconsin protests as anything different, as that would be a clear lie, wouldn't it?

Any one ever threaten your life or your family? I know that would not be considered peaceful in my world

You mean like the Tea Baggers on YouTube who talk to the news media about killing the President?

[wiphan]

Riot,

just out of curiosity do you support Gay Marriage?

[timmgirvan]

Pravda says Obama has spent over 2mil to conceal his citizenship! I'm laughing

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Pravda says Obama has spent over 2mil to conceal his citizenship! I'm laughing

Now there is an independent source. Are you sure President Obama isn't really an alien? Perhaps from one of Saturn's moons....

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Pravda says Obama has spent over 2mil to conceal his citizenship! I'm laughing

The real secret is that the black, Kenyan, Muslim side of the family stories are just a distraction for the public. The true, shocking secrets are found within the white, Kansas, rural, American, war veterans side of the family!

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Riot,

just out of curiosity do you support Gay Marriage?

I know your question wasn't to me but I'll respond...Absolutely!!

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I know your question wasn't to me but I'll respond...Absolutely!!

Maybe your views align closer to the evil Koch brothers than to president Obama then.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Maybe your views align closer to the evil Koch brothers than to president Obama then.

I share quite a few political views with the Koch brothers.

Except for their desire to literally purchase as much of our government as they can, purchase control towards their own self-reward and self-interest.

[richard]

Originally Posted by Riot

Not very common in current times, especially with those unions who are prevented by contract from striking, but hey, hyperbole helps the case I guess.

The weeks of peaceful, non-violent protest in Wisconsin, for example. Yeah, lots of "physical violence" "beating" and "intimidation" going on there

Down with unions! They are the current fad scapegoat! Kindergarten teachers suck and threaten me! The Republicans told me so!

Excuse me, but public unions are not a "current fad scapegoat." They have manipulated the public trust many years to put themselves at the end of the plank. It's time they are outlawed.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by richard

Excuse me, but public unions are not a "current fad scapegoat." They have manipulated the public trust many years to put themselves at the end of the plank. It's time they are outlawed.

That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it. Doesn't seem to be shared by many.

But yes, in the recent public political discourse of the past 10 years, "Bust the Unions! They are evil and the cause of all our budget problems!" has only made a huge public presence since the Koch Brothers held the last Republican Governors Association meeting, and the GOP governors were told to say it and do it before the 2012 elections. Bush certainly never had a problem with it.

Google News item search on "outlaw unions" number of stories:
2000 17
2001 34
2002 9
2003 17
2004 21
2005 19
2006 22
2007 28
2008 51
2009 46
2010 71
2011 336

Yes, indeed, the "current fad scapegoat". After Muslims, of course.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Riot

That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it. Doesn't seem to be shared by many.

But yes, in the recent public political discourse of the past 10 years, "Bust the Unions! They are evil and the cause of all our budget problems!" has only made a huge public presence since the Koch Brothers held the last Republican Governors Association meeting, and the GOP governors were told to say it and do it before the 2012 elections.

Yes, indeed, the "current fad scapegoat". After Muslims, of course.

and President Obama!