Bahrain

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Naw. Riot gets that part. You? Not so much

part of the few hundred bad muslims?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

part of the few hundred bad muslims?

It's too bad you only think in simplistic, black-and-white political talking points.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

It's too bad you only think in simplistic, black-and-white political talking points.

no it's too bad you think 100's maybe thousands of muslims hate America when in fact it's in the 10's of millions at the least.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

no it's too bad you think 100's maybe thousands of muslims hate America when in fact it's in the 10's of millions at the least.

CARTER!

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

no it's too bad you think 100's maybe thousands of muslims hate America when in fact it's in the 10's of millions at the least.

Guess having a discussion about Bahrain is impossible as it quickly becomes a WWF cagematch between Dell and Riot.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Guess having a discussion about Bahrain is impossible as it quickly becomes a WWF cagematch between Dell and Riot.

You were doing very well trying to have an intelligent thread about Bahrain. But Dell has this unhealthy weird fixation thing where he drags my name into threads I'm not even posting upon.

Carry on, I was silently agreeing with your insights

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Riot

You were doing very well trying to have an intelligent thread about Bahrain. But Dell has this unhealthy weird fixation thing where he drags my name into threads I'm not even posting upon.

Carry on, I was silently agreeing with your insights

I'm not sure I have a lot of insight here but to me, Bahrain is a test of our values. We must decide whether basic human rights extend to everyone regardless of their feelings about us, their religion, even their willingness to extend those rights to us. I don't think 10 of millions of Muslims hate us because we worship the Almighty differently than them, rather because they see us as the "haves" to their "have nots". Religion is the easy way out, just as popes and kings of past Europe used religion to justify the Crusades, radical Islamic elements attempt to urge hatred using beliefs that are so important to people who have little else in life. Two elements are at play, failure to listen to those who think differently than us, and hatred that arises from fear of those who we perceive as different than us...race, religious beliefs, politics...all are just tools to perpetuate this fear and hatred. In the end, if we as a nation are to be true to ourselves, we must stand with the people of Bahrain against tyrany. The results are not within our control, our actions are.

[SOREHOOF]

Why do they hate Israel?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I'm not sure I have a lot of insight here but to me, Bahrain is a test of our values. We must decide whether basic human rights extend to everyone regardless of their feelings about us, their religion, even their willingness to extend those rights to us. I don't think 10 of millions of Muslims hate us because we worship the Almighty differently than them, rather because they see us as the "haves" to their "have nots". Religion is the easy way out, just as popes and kings of past Europe used religion to justify the Crusades, radical Islamic elements attempt to urge hatred using beliefs that are so important to people who have little else in life. Two elements are at play, failure to listen to those who think differently than us, and hatred that arises from fear of those who we perceive as different than us...race, religious beliefs, politics...all are just tools to perpetuate this fear and hatred. In the end, if we as a nation are to be true to ourselves, we must stand with the people of Bahrain against tyrany. The results are not within our control, our actions are.

it's a current test, the latest part of aa test we've been failing for years. our goal has been stability in the middle east, not democracy. now, when the people there are seemingly ready, we're not! this is what we get as a nation for not standing up for our core beliefs. instead, we've taken the road that benefits us monetarily. greed has won the day for years.
it's time for us to stand tall for peoples' rights-in the end that will pay off far more than the years of giving aid to foreign countries run by dictators. we have been short sighted for far too long.
that said, obama is in latin america instead of meeting with europes top leaders about libya. wrong move there! the veep should have gone south.