2/26 (GP): Fountain of Youth, Hutcheson, Davona Dale (G2's)

Indian Charlie · #1 02-26-2011, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

God bless America. And broke race tracks and states. And crooked lawyers and trainers. And stupid people who believe in American justice.

If you don't like America, feel free to leave!!!!

I've always wanted to say that.

I'm with Pants and Betsy on this one.

Enough with the chickenshid scratching out of every freaking race in which conditions are not absolutely favorable to your horse.

Those are tactics you see in a second grade playground.

#2 02-26-2011, 04:28 PM

Thieves used to lose their hands as punishment for stealing. Make no mistake, Dutrow is a low-level thief. He lived in a f.ucking stall for crying out loud. He'll do ANYTHING to win. The guy should be in the winners circle waving his nubs. To see that he has all 10 fingers is sickening.

#3 02-26-2011, 04:32 PM

Dutrow trains Gourmet Dinner he wins by 15

declansharbor · #4 02-26-2011, 04:32 PM

LATE money thrown down on Soldat made him the 7/5 favorite.

#5 02-26-2011, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor

LATE money thrown down on Soldat made him the 7/5 favorite.

He was crushed in the double and pick 3.

Travis Stone · #6 02-26-2011, 04:33 PM

I would have never thought Soldat would be the favorite when the gates opened.

Betsy · #7 02-26-2011, 04:34 PM

VERY disappointed in THAS........ I understand that maybe he wasn't 100%, but he should have run better than he did. If I'm Mott, I don't even consider the Derby with him. I doubt he got anything out of this race, not enough for him to run 1 1/4 miles in May

ateamstupid · #8 02-26-2011, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

VERY disappointed in THAS........ I understand that maybe he wasn't 100%, but he should have run better than he did. If I'm Mott, I don't even consider the Derby with him. I doubt he got anything out of this race, not enough for him to run 1 1/4 miles in May

Do you ever give it a rest?

ateamstupid · #9 02-26-2011, 04:36 PM

On another note, War Front is off to an unbelievable start as a sire.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #10 02-26-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

On another note, War Front is off to an unbelievable start as a sire.

pomeroy too along with first sam

Indian Charlie · #11 02-26-2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

On another note, War Front is off to an unbelievable start as a sire.

Does he have any other interesting horses beyond TF and Soldat?

Betsy · #12 02-26-2011, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Do you ever give it a rest?

I have no idea what your problem is except extreme arrogance, but go ahead and say that the horse ran a good race. I eagerly anticipate your analysis - or was your comment about War Front as much as we can expect from you. You sure have a hard time being civil.

ateamstupid · #13 02-26-2011, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

I have no idea what your problem is except extreme arrogance, but go ahead and say that the horse ran a good race. I eagerly anticipate your analysis - or was your comment about War Front as much as we can expect from you. You sure have a hard time being civil.

Yeah, I'm the one with the problem. The horse ran third off a four-month layoff and you're taking him off the Derby trail, no questions asked. All you ever used to do is complain about how every horse's spot is too ambitious, now you've switched to putting the second favorite for the Derby on the shelf because of a so-so comeback race behind a quality horse who walked on the lead. Your insanely overprotective attitude towards all A.P. Indy sons and grandsons is beyond tired.

Look at the rest of the comments. I'm not the only one who thinks you're being typically ridiculous.

Antitrust32 · #14 02-28-2011, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

I have no idea what your problem is except extreme arrogance, but go ahead and say that the horse ran a good race. I eagerly anticipate your analysis - or was your comment about War Front as much as we can expect from you. You sure have a hard time being civil.

did Riot sign on under your name?

touchy touchy

robfla · #15 02-26-2011, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

VERY disappointed in THAS........ I understand that maybe he wasn't 100%, but he should have run better than he did. If I'm Mott, I don't even consider the Derby with him. I doubt he got anything out of this race, not enough for him to run 1 1/4 miles in May

Betsy · #16 02-26-2011, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by robfla

What exactly is your problem? I get that THAS wasn't going to be 100%, but he really ran a very poor race. He was factious in the gate for one.........he almost seemed a bit rank early. I had expected him to blow by Soldat, but then I really thought going in he was a very good horse. Do you really think that Mott can get this horse ready for 1 1/4 after his next start? He's got a lot of questions to answer now.

Indian Charlie · #17 02-26-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

VERY disappointed in THAS........ I understand that maybe he wasn't 100%, but he should have run better than he did. If I'm Mott, I don't even consider the Derby with him. I doubt he got anything out of this race, not enough for him to run 1 1/4 miles in May

I never even understood the love this horse got from fans and media in the first place.

Who knows though. Maybe something happened to him, or he didn't like the track.

Betsy · #18 02-26-2011, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I never even understood the love this horse got from fans and media in the first place.

Who knows though. Maybe something happened to him, or he didn't like the track.

What didn't you like about his performance as a 2 year old?

Also, I remember Indomitable Drug wondering if Bernardini took after his dam in siring relatively precocious horses (she didn't do so well past her juvenile year).............and maybe he's right. So far, about 15th on the 2nd crop sires list and I can count the number of his horses on one hand that have shown real promise this year. Of course it's too early to say they haven't trained on, but it's something to keep an eye on.

freddymo · #19 02-26-2011, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

What didn't you like about his performance as a 2 year old?

Also, I remember Indomitable Drug wondering if Bernardini took after his dam in siring relatively precocious horses (she didn't do so well past her juvenile year).............and maybe he's right. So far, about 15th on the 2nd crop sires list and I can count the number of his horses on one hand that have shown real promise this year. Of course it's too early to say they haven't trained on, but it's something to keep an eye on.

You need Byk to get you Moss's # now to have them abort Zenyatta's foal?

Indian Charlie · #20 02-26-2011, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

What didn't you like about his performance as a 2 year old?

Also, I remember Indomitable Drug wondering if Bernardini took after his dam in siring relatively precocious horses (she didn't do so well past her juvenile year).............and maybe he's right. So far, about 15th on the 2nd crop sires list and I can count the number of his horses on one hand that have shown real promise this year. Of course it's too early to say they haven't trained on, but it's something to keep an eye on.

He just did not impress me in the same way he impressed others.

He got the softest of trips and he I don't think he finished as well off those easy setups as he should have, for a horse of his hype.

I didn't think he sucked or anything though.

As for Bernardini, who knows how good he'll be, but right now he's the odds on choice to be the sire of a triple crown winner in 2015!