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Old 02-22-2011, 02:01 PM
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So you and I would be paying for this extra effort? Do we lose our right to bitch about Obama putting us further into debt by us funding this extra curricular Military activity? Or is the cost a drop in the bucket in the big picture? How many drops until the bucket runneth over?
We'll just cut welfare to pay for it.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:13 PM
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No we need a "Kill Pirates Zone" where we proactively annihilate these mofos.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:27 PM
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We'll just cut welfare to pay for it.
Let's just cut welfare anyway!
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:34 PM
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Let's just cut welfare anyway!
What do you think the consequence of cutting welfare to be?
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:38 PM
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What do you think the consequence of cutting welfare to be?
Some Americans will do the jobs that Liberals are giving them an excuse not to do.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:41 PM
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I didn't say cut it completely, just weed out the scammers. I know some people need help. There are more "Octomom" types than people want to admit.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:42 PM
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Some Americans will do the jobs that Liberals are giving them an excuse not to do.
How about what probably will happpen, not what we would like to happen. A much higher crime rate.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:45 PM
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How about what probably will happpen, not what we would like to happen. A much higher crime rate.
That's why that Second Amendment is there. Gun up and protect your family and your stuff.
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Old 02-22-2011, 02:47 PM
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That's why that Second Amendment is there. Gun up and protect your family and your stuff.
You going to gun up your kids and your parents too and hope to hell it works out or just guard them 24x7?
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:01 PM
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How about what probably will happpen, not what we would like to happen. A much higher crime rate.
Are you saying that people on welfare are more prone to engage in criminal activities? That's sure what it sounded like. I've had my income cut off more than once and I didn't turn to a life of crime.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:22 PM
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Are you saying that people on welfare are more prone to engage in criminal activities? That's sure what it sounded like. I've had my income cut off more than once and I didn't turn to a life of crime.
I'm saying that a good number of people on welfare are at the end of their rope and probably are paycheck to paycheck with no backup. You probably had some backup. Put yourself in a position where you have no money, no backup a family to feed. Pretty desperate no? Now multiply that by the number of people having their welfare taken away according to your master plan. Are you saying NONE of them will resort to criminal activity? If you are you are very very naive. If I were put in that situation I can't say with all honesty that I wouldn't resort to criminal activity.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:50 PM
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Are you saying that people on welfare are more prone to engage in criminal activities? That's sure what it sounded like. I've had my income cut off more than once and I didn't turn to a life of crime.
Here is a study of Crime and shows the increase in crime later in the month after welfare checks are delivered. What do you think will happen if there were no checks at all? I'm sure you think I am a bleeding heart liberal I couldn't be further from it. But I do know that every action has a reaction and there is something called the law of law of unintended consequences.
There are no binary solutions. to issues of this nature.

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Old 02-22-2011, 02:44 PM
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I like the way you think Hoof...good stuff.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:56 PM
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Some Americans will do the jobs that Liberals are giving them an excuse not to do.
Nonsense. The unemployed causing the elevated rate are workers - not freeloaders. Don't apply what makes up the base unemployment rate to everyone who is unemployed now.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:02 PM
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Nonsense. The unemployed causing the elevated rate are workers - not freeloaders. Don't apply what makes up the base unemployment rate to everyone who is unemployed now.
I wasn't generalizing. I was very specific. SCAMMERS. Welfare is not "Unemployment Ins".
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:04 PM
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I wasn't generalizing. I was very specific. SCAMMERS.
That's what I wanted to find out from Wing, that he didn't answer - Illinois, many years back, put a time limit on someone's ability to collect welfare. Like 2 years or something. Wonder if it's still in effect.

I wonder about people like Congresswoman and Tea Party queen Michelle Bachmann, who raised 23 foster kids - that alot of monthly government checks, combined with her government farms subsidies.
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Old 02-22-2011, 04:16 PM
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Instead of building High Speed Rail Systems we should start building prisons because the coming crime wave from the Federal Govt, along with the States, going bankrupt will fill them in a hurry. You can only print so much money before you run out of paper.
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Old 02-22-2011, 03:59 PM
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What do you think the consequence of cutting welfare to be?
Why, all those hundreds of thousands of people will magically and suddenly start working, at those hundreds of thousands of unfilled jobs that are making the classified section of the newspaper five inches thick.

There are so many jobs available today, people are offering premium wages in an attempt to be competitive with trying to keep a house, a car, and a family of four alive on $280 a week. Nobody wants to give up that gravy train.
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