Democracy In Egypt

[randallscott35]

Remind me please of another country who celebrates their "freedom" with an organized rape? I'm sure they will be bringing those responsible to justice soon.

[Riot]

Yeah, because the hundreds of thousands who protested peacefully and non-violently for 18 days - including women and children in the square - don't represent the country, while the acts of a few do.

Yeah, that's never happened in the United States, women getting attacked and raped after football celebrations, during street parades/parties, etc.

Glad she'll be okay.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yeah, because the hundreds of thousands who protested peacefully and non-violently for 18 days don't represent the country, while the acts of a few do.

Yeah, that's never happened in the United States, women getting attacked and raped after football celebrations, during street parades/parties, etc.

Glad she'll be okay.

You repulse me.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

You repulse me.

Ditto. What about the soldiers and women who saved her - they get no credit for being "that country celebrating democracy"?

She was asking for it.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yeah, because the hundreds of thousands who protested peacefully and non-violently for 18 days - including women and children in the square - don't represent the country, while the acts of a few do.

Yeah, that's never happened in the United States, women getting attacked and raped after football celebrations, during street parades/parties, etc.

Glad she'll be okay.

This happened Friday and went unreported for 5 days with live streaming video of Anderson Copper being shoved and giving back a bittch slap? Either CBS sux or something is up? Guess CBS and the rest of the media felt the protesters (Muslim Brotherhood) overturn of the government trumps a little old rape, heck even Obama praised them with no mention of this woman. At least her head is still on I guess. And Riot your excuse "Yeah, that's never happened in the United States, women getting attacked and raped after football celebrations, during street parades/parties, etc." is despicable.

BTW Glad your glad she’ll be OK.

WTF?????? I now believe you haven't a clue of what forcible rape is?

Glad she'll be OK? Yea wrap it up and get back in the game.

Supreme Allah says that b.itch had it comin' to her for being white.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Supreme Allah says that b.itch had it comin' to her for being white.

if it were Al Qaeda instead of the Muslim Brotherhood it would have been her head instead of 'Glad she'll be OK'. So there is a bright side.

[dalakhani]

I don't recall ever hearing of a situation where a reporter was raped covering an event regardless of how out of control the crowd became.

I don't think this says anything about Egyptians as a whole but it does give insight into the chaotic and savage behavior of some of the rioters.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I don't recall ever hearing of a situation where a reporter was raped covering an event regardless of how out of control the crowd became.

I don't think this says anything about Egyptians as a whole but it does give insight into the chaotic and savage behavior of some of the rioters.

i don't either. another shock is finding that many countries still don't consider that a crime. how awful for her; altho she is lucky not to have been killed, that attack will haunt her forever.

[Princess Doreen]

I can't help but think what hell there would be to pay if a Muslim woman was raped by a few thugs hanging out in a peaceful tea party gathering.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

This happened Friday and went unreported for 5 days with live streaming video of Anderson Copper being shoved and giving back a bittch slap? Either CBS sux or something is up? Guess CBS and the rest of the media felt the protesters (Muslim Brotherhood) overturn of the government trumps a little old rape, heck even Obama praised them with no mention of this woman. At least her head is still on I guess. And Riot your excuse "Yeah, that's never happened in the United States, women getting attacked and raped after football celebrations, during street parades/parties, etc." is despicable.

BTW Glad your glad she’ll be OK.

WTF?????? I now believe you haven't a clue of what forcible rape is?

Glad she'll be OK? Yea wrap it up and get back in the game.

You're an idiot, Dell. I'm glad she wasn't killed. She's alive, and lucky to be so, and lucky to get out of the hospital. I wasn't making light of her attack.

There were other reporters there, who were taken by the police, held and beaten.

You think all those protesters were Muslim Brotherhood? If so, you're clueless.

You guys who want to slam all Egyptians because of what happened to that poor reporter, but fail to acknowledge violent people can be everywhere - that's what's despicable. That was no "excuse", Dell, it's true. But let's not let that get in the way of hating Muslims. Even the ones that saved her from her attackers.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

You're an idiot, Dell. I'm glad she wasn't killed. She's alive, and lucky to be so, and lucky to get out of the hospital. I wasn't making light of her attack.

There were other reporters there, who were taken by the police, held and beaten.

You think all those protesters were Muslim Brotherhood? If so, you're clueless.

You guys who want to slam all Egyptians because of what happened to that poor reporter, but fail to acknowledge violent people can be everywhere - that's what's despicable. That was no "excuse", Dell, it's true. But let's not let that get in the way of hating Muslims. Even the ones that saved her from her attackers.

And you're an insensitive biatch. Tell us again how she's all right? Tell me when 200 anybody assaulted a reporter in this country. Tell us how the protesters are so peaceful and the Muslim Brotherhood (In Egypt) does not want to form a political party. And for you to think this woman is anything but f'd for life proves who's the idiot. At least in American eyes.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

And you're an insensitive biatch. Tell us again how she's all right? Tell me when 200 anybody assaulted a reporter in this country. Tell us how the protesters are so peaceful and the Muslim Brotherhood (In Egypt) does not want to form a political party. And for you to think this woman is anything but f'd for life proves who's the idiot. At least in American eyes.

You ignorant jackass. I didn't say she was all right. I wasn't making light of her attack. I'm horrified at what happened to her, and at the other reporter who was killed, and at all the reporters who were beaten.

And I'm not the one here taking the horrible attack on Lara, and using her attack as political fodder to support their Islamophobia and hate. Talk about insensitive jackasses using the misery of others to justify their hate. It's appalling and pathetic, this occurring in this day and age in America.

[Princess Doreen]

I wish many more moderate Muslims would speak out against the barbaric customs of their "religion". Why don't they? Probably afraid they'd be auffed.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Riot

You ignorant jackass. I didn't say she was all right.

But you did say she was okay.

Is that a lot different than all right?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

You ignorant jackass. I didn't say she was all right. I wasn't making light of her attack. I'm horrified at what happened to her, and at the other reporter who was killed, and at all the reporters who were beaten.

And I'm not the one here taking the horrible attack on Lara, and using her attack as political fodder to support their Islamophobia and hate. Talk about insensitive jackasses using the misery of others to justify their hate. It's appalling and pathetic, this occurring in this day and age in America.

Listen you dumb biatch you said you were "glad she was all right" not that 'she was all right'! Quote me right!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yeah, because the hundreds of thousands who protested peacefully and non-violently for 18 days - including women and children in the square - don't represent the country, while the acts of a few do.

Yeah, that's never happened in the United States, women getting attacked and raped after football celebrations, during street parades/parties, etc.

Glad she'll be okay.

this has to be one of the worst reponses I've ever seen on a message board.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yeah, because the hundreds of thousands who protested peacefully and non-violently for 18 days - including women and children in the square - don't represent the country, while the acts of a few do.

Yeah, that's never happened in the United States, women getting attacked and raped after football celebrations, during street parades/parties, etc.

Glad she'll be okay.

are you kidding me? Where the F is the blame other than the US.

Glad she'll be okay?

I'd bet she (Lara) would want to punch you in the face! Rather than worry about bashing muslims.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

are you kidding me? Where the F is the blame other than the US. Glad she'll be okay?
I'd bet she (Lara) would want to punch you in the face! Rather than worry about bashing muslims.

That post had no blame on the US for Lara's attack. Are you crazy? Try reading the next two posts I wrote to you, too. You know, where I said how horrific her attack was, that others were attacked too, that there was no excuse for her attackers, and again, that blaming all Muslim Egyptians for her attack is despicable.

Let's put this in really clear terms, Dell, so you won't continue to misunderstand and falsely represent what I think about this:

The attack on Lara Logan was terrible, horrific, and her attacker should suffer five times what she did, then be tortured to death. Yes, I'm very glad she'll be okay, in that the possibilities and closeness of that call were horrible, that she was rescued by Egyptians (who were probably Muslim!) and soldiers (who were probably Muslims, too!)

The attack is not representative of Egyptians, or Muslims, or Muslim Egyptians, or Christian Egyptians, or of democracy - it is representative of violent attackers. Violent attackers exist in democracy, too. The referral to Egyptians celebrating democracy by beating and rape was a despicable slam on all Egyptians.

Got it now, Dell? Now, if you want to continue to talk about this, tell me what you think about this op-ed. I posted it early in the thread. It's titled, "What not to say about Lara Logan".

http://www.salon.com/news/media_crit..._rape_reaction

I know you will click and read the whole thing, but here is an excerpt:

Here’s what you do say when something like this happens. Like countless women around the world, Lara Logan was attacked in the line of duty. She was assaulted doing her job. It was a crime of unspeakable violence. And your opinion of how she does that job, the religion her assailants share with a few million other people, or the color of her hair has nothing to do with it.

UPDATE: After an overwhelmingly negative reaction to his tweets, Nir Rosen has resigned his post at N.Y.U.