Healthcare repeal fails

[Riot]

I think people are missing the point. This is just the beginning of the repeal process.

The point is that the "repeal process" is a huge waste of time and is only a political sideshow for the GOP base. Even the GOP admits publicly they only took the vote as they promised their base.

Two federal judges have already ruled it was constitutional. Fourteen federal judges said there wasn't even enough question to look at the issue.

The two noted conservative judges who ruled negatively didn't even issue a stay on implementation as there was no basis.

Ronald Reagan's Solicitor General, yesterday at constitutionality hearings,
even agreed it was unquestionably constitutional under the commerce clause.

The supreme court will get it, the sooner the better, it will be addressed within the commerce clause, and the likely and logical result will come down.

Joey, the "defunding" is just another public political PR ploy. The only "defunding" possible is for some minor administrative functions.

The essential money for the part that needs it (Medicaid) already exists within the budget, isn't touchable, and will not affect implementation (as the bill is deficit neuteral, it comes from monies already in use)

This is the law of the land. The GOP in the Congress need to get to work on creating jobs and working on the economy. Unfortunately, all they know about "making jobs" is "tax cut". That's probably why they are not working on lowering unemployment, they have nothing to offer in the way of solutions.

Thus they are going with what they know, social issues: they instead are focusing on abortion and rape. In this time of high unemployment, rampant joblessness, a committee that just came out with scathing indictments of Wall Street, the Congressional Republicans are ignoring all that, and their first bill is about abortion and rape. Ridiculous. Good luck getting re-elected with that in 2012, Republicans.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Thus they are going with what they know, social issues: they instead are focusing on abortion and rape. In this time of high unemployment, rampant joblessness, a committee that just came out with scathing indictments of Wall Street, the Congressional Republicans are ignoring all that, and their first bill is about abortion and rape. Ridiculous. Good luck getting re-elected with that in 2012, Republicans.

You ask and you shall receive. Bravo GOP!


Republican leaders in the U.S. House of Representatives will seek $32 billion in spending cuts from current levels this year as part of an effort to reduce a forecasted $1.5 trillion deficit.

Aides to House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan outlined the savings to reporters Thursday. These spending cuts would become part of a bill to fund a wide range of federal government programs through the current fiscal year that ends Sept. 30.

RIOT since you were so excited about the Obama freeze surely you must be ecstatic at a genuine cut? BTW Not holding my breath.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

You ask and you shall receive. Bravo GOP!

Republican leaders in the U.S. House of Representatives will seek $32 billion in spending cuts from current levels this year as part of an effort to reduce a forecasted $1.5 trillion deficit.

Aides to House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan outlined the savings to reporters Thursday. These spending cuts would become part of a bill to fund a wide range of federal government programs through the current fiscal year that ends Sept. 30.

RIOT since you were so excited about the Obama freeze surely you must be ecstatic at a genuine cut? BTW Not holding my breath.

Yes, Dell, during the campaign the Republicans promised $100 billion a year in tax cuts. They said they would bring a cut to the House floor every week (oh, yeah, except they won't touch defense)

Then when Boehner and Ryan were asked about it on election day, they realized that the budget year was already half over, and they couldn't keep that promise (although they were the ones making the budgets, so many found it surprising they forgot about the budget year when making the campaign promise)

So then Boehner, Cantor and Ryan said $50 billion (which made the Tea Party really mad).

Now they say they can maybe only find $32 billion, that they will niggle and dime out of current funding for the active budget year - which means it's essentially unused leftover monies from this budget year that wouldn't get spent anyways.

But yay, Republicans! We keep our fingers crossed

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, Dell, during the campaign the Republicans promised $100 billion a year in tax cuts. They said they would bring a cut to the House floor every week.

Then when Boehner and Ryan were asked about it on election day, they realized that the budget year was already half over, and they couldn't keep that promise (although they were the ones making the budgets, so many found it surprising they forgot about the budget year when making the campaign promise)

So then Boehner, Cantor and Ryan said $50 billion (which made the Tea Party really mad).

Now they say they can maybe only find $32 billion, that they will niggle and dime out of current funding for the active budget year - which means it's essentially unused leftover monies from this budget year that wouldn't get spent anyways.

We keep our fingers crossed

Unused, leftover money? WTF?

So Dems will be on board with this?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Unused, leftover money? WTF?

So Dems will be on board with this?

Probably

Dell, the Democrats right now are worried about things like protecting women from the Republican backdoor amendment attempt to take health care in rape cases away from them. The Dems just won that fight today.

It is the responsibility of the GOP, who control the Congress, control what bills are introduced, and have all the votes, bring finance and budget-cutting bills forward.

When - if - Ryan actually gets something budget cutting to the House floor, we'll see how the vote goes, depending upon what he brings forward.

And we'll see what it is they are actually "cutting".

It's nice Ryan finally came out with a list, even though it's about this current budget year in progress, because all the Republicans (Boehner, Cantor, Ryan) have been refusing to name anything specific they would cut, even after they were elected.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Probably

Dell, the Democrats right now are worried about things like protecting women from the Republican backdoor amendment attempt to take health care in rape cases away from them. The Dems just won that fight today..

I thought Dems were worried about jobs and the economy and republicans were worried about re-defining rape as you call it?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I thought Dems were worried about jobs and the economy and republicans were worried about re-defining rape as you call it?

The Dems can't bring bills to the floor any more. That's Speaker Boehners job.