Healthcare repeal fails

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by joeydb

I think people are missing the point. This is just the beginning of the repeal process.

The Democrats passed this law last year along party lines. Not one Republican voted for it.

Many Democrats who voted for it got creamed at the polls. Fortunately for them, there weren't that many Democrats up for re-election in the Senate due to the Class I, II, and III system that splits up the 6 year terms to 1/3 up for vote every 2 years.

2012 is a different story. And now, when given the opportunity to undo this horrible law, the Democrats again were the only party opposing appeal. They had to do it, because if not, the repeal motion goes to the president's desk, where he can't just "vote present". He'd need to act, and by denying repeal he will once again affirm "Hey, 70% of the citizens hate this law, but tough sh*t... we're maintaining government control of your healthcare". Not a good thing for him.

The Senate Democrats transparently allowed many of their endangered members to symbolically vote for the appeal, since they were sure they'd defeat it. But again, the party reaffirmed their dedication to taking over the lives of American citizens while exempting themselves and the unions through waivers. It's a long time from now, but 2012 will be another red tidal wave if they don't smarten up, and fast.

Even though the outright repeal has stalled, the House can still de-fund the bill totally, while the court action continues on the unconstitutional law, so that the Senate Democrats may well find that they took a stand in this case for nothing. Think Custer at Little Big Horn...

The Democrats up for re-election in 2012 are depending on short term memory of the American voters.

We'll see.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

The Democrats up for re-election in 2012 are depending on short term memory of the American voters.

We'll see.

And if the economy improves they will win by a landslide...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by jms62

And if the economy improves they will win by a landslide...

If the economy stays exactly the same I think the Dems will still win in a landslide, the way the Republicans and "Tea Party" candidates are starting out in the Congress. People are already getting really mad at them for blockage and inaction on the jobs and economy front, they are starting to get it from both the left and the right.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

If the economy stays exactly the same I think the Dems will still win in a landslide, the way the Republicans and "Tea Party" candidates are starting out in the Congress. People are already getting really mad at them for blockage and inaction on the jobs and economy front, they are starting to get it from both the left and the right.

OMG Forget blinks on, you got out of the gate with the hood still on! Unless your definition of 'people' are the most left minded democrats.

Unemployment extensions are not jobs. Shutting down the gulf is not jobs. Jamming through health care regulations overburdening small businesses while giving waivers to constituents stinks as does the recent exemption of GE from global warming rules. Yea republicans and tea partiers are turning towards Obama only it's their backsides.

BTW That post was 'Carter crazy' just hope with his great understanding he finds the right words to console his Egyptian friend. LOL

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

OMG Forget blinks on, you got out of the gate with the hood still on! Unless your definition of 'people' are the most left minded democrats.

Unemployment extensions are not jobs. Shutting down the gulf is not jobs. Jamming through health care regulations overburdening small businesses while giving waivers to constituents stinks as does the recent exemption of GE from global warming rules. Yea republicans and tea partiers are turning towards Obama only it's their backsides.

BTW That post was 'Carter crazy' just hope with his great understanding he finds the right words to console his Egyptian friend. LOL

The Republicans are now in charge, Dell. It's their game, their win or loss.

Whatever the economy is on election day 2012, Obama will get some blame, and the Republicans, who were just elected on the promise of helping the economy, will get the rest.

Jamming through health care regulations overburdening small businesses

Strange - there is kind of a little stampede right now, of small businesses offering health care for their employees for the first time, so they can get the good tax cuts this year.

Unless your definition of 'people' are the most left minded democrats.

No, Dell, I was talking about the Tea Party being mad at the Republicans when they lowered their budget cutting figure from $100 billion to $50 billion, then maybe to $25-35 billion (for this year)

The greatest threat the GOP has to reelection in 2012 are the various Tea Party groups.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

The Republicans are now in charge, Dell. It's their game, their win or loss..

Did I just wake up from a two year nap? They're in charge of the house. First month they repealed Obama care. Job well done. This month they'll cut $32 billion. I'd say they're on a roll. Now if the Senate and POTUS would get out of the way they may have an outside chance of taking credit somehow.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Did I just wake up from a two year nap? They're in charge of the house. First month they repealed Obama care. Job well done. This month they'll cut $32 billion. I'd say they're on a roll. Now if the Senate and POTUS would get out of the way they may have an outside chance of taking credit somehow.

Yes, wow, the Republicans are on a roll ...

House Resolution 2: ... wasting 1 million dollars a day on a silly political healthcare repeal grandstand that went nowhere and was in fact permanently voted down in the Senate yesterday. Loss.

House Resolution 3: well, they did try to backdoor defund rape health care. That failed too. Thankfully. Loss.

Two bills, two losses. How are the Republicans "on a roll" ??

Let's hope they do cut something from the budget!

Because all they've done in the first month is try and take the healthcare rights of rape victims away, and take healthcare away from 30 million Americans. Go GOP! You look out for your fellow Americans. Well done! Yes, Dell, they are welcome to "take credit" for that. That's a heck of a re-election platform. The Dems are probably already cutting the campaign ads ....

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

The Republicans are now in charge, Dell. It's their game, their win or loss.

Whatever the economy is on election day 2012, Obama will get some blame, and the Republicans, who were just elected on the promise of helping the economy, will get the rest.



Strange - there is kind of a little stampede right now, of small businesses offering health care for their employees for the first time, so they can get the good tax cuts this year.



No, Dell, I was talking about the Tea Party being mad at the Republicans when they lowered their budget cutting figure from $100 billion to $50 billion, then maybe to $25-35 billion (for this year)

The greatest threat the GOP has to reelection in 2012 are the various Tea Party groups.

Well, if the people that were elected dont do what they should do, then the old boy party should have something to fear

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

OMG Forget blinks on, you got out of the gate with the hood still on! Unless your definition of 'people' are the most left minded democrats.

Unemployment extensions are not jobs. Shutting down the gulf is not jobs. Jamming through health care regulations overburdening small businesses while giving waivers to constituents stinks as does the recent exemption of GE from global warming rules. Yea republicans and tea partiers are turning towards Obama only it's their backsides.

BTW That post was 'Carter crazy' just hope with his great understanding he finds the right words to console his Egyptian friend. LOL

You know how money talks in the business world. Maybe if you scratch my back and I will scratch your back also applies.

[joeydb]

They are upset that ObamaCare is called ObamaCare. You'd think he'd be proud of his "signature achievement"...

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-actio...term-obamacare

[joeydb]

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

And if the economy improves they will win by a landslide...

Good possibility that could happen.

[Riot]

Here's a start, Dell. Hopefully the GOP will add to it:

Government reports $15B in contract cuts, first reduction since 1997
By Ed O'Keefe
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, February 3, 2011; 6:49 PM

In what administration officials describe as a major milestone, the federal government spent $15 billion less on contracts for outside products and services last year, the first year-to-year cuts in such costs since 1997.

Government contracts totaled $535 billion in fiscal 2010, down from $550 billion the year before, the White House said Thursday.

With those reductions, the Obama administration is on course to achieve its two-year goal of eliminating at least $40 billion on contract spending, according to Office of Management and Budget Deputy Director Jeffrey D. Zients.

More at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...020305824.html

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Here's a start, Dell. Hopefully the GOP will add to it:

You are clueless.

Government reports $15B in contract cuts, first reduction since 1997
By Ed O'Keefe
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, February 3, 2011; 6:49 PM

In what administration officials describe as a major milestone, the federal government spent $15 billion less on contracts for outside products and services last year, the first year-to-year cuts in such costs since 1997.

Government contracts totaled $535 billion in fiscal 2010, down from $550 billion the year before, the White House said Thursday.

With those reductions, the Obama administration is on course to achieve its two-year goal of eliminating at least $40 billion on contract spending, according to Office of Management and Budget Deputy Director Jeffrey D. Zients.




If you spend $5,500 on outside landscaping and decrease to $5,350 and then say I got a deal for it when it's a wild field with a bunch of weeds you may be on to something. LMAO

How about we just go back to what all Dems/pre-Obama crack-whore-spending, called a inflated budget with the two needless wars and all and start from there as a mendoza-line?????????

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

You are clueless.

Government reports $15B in contract cuts, first reduction since 1997
By Ed O'Keefe
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, February 3, 2011; 6:49 PM

In what administration officials describe as a major milestone, the federal government spent $15 billion less on contracts for outside products and services last year, the first year-to-year cuts in such costs since 1997.

Government contracts totaled $535 billion in fiscal 2010, down from $550 billion the year before, the White House said Thursday.

With those reductions, the Obama administration is on course to achieve its two-year goal of eliminating at least $40 billion on contract spending, according to Office of Management and Budget Deputy Director Jeffrey D. Zients.


If you spend $5,500 on outside landscaping and decrease to $5,350 and then say I got a deal for it when it's a wild field with a bunch of weeds you may be on to something. LMAO

How about we just go back to what all Dems/pre-Obama crack-whore-spending, called a inflated budget with the two needless wars and all and start from there as a mendoza-line?????????

So, your position is that cutting 15 billion dollars out of the budget - not spending it - is bad.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

So, your position is that cutting 15 billion dollars out of the budget - not spending it - is bad.

no good, just like leaving 5 pennies on a 100 dollar tab.