Founding fathers liked taxed government health care

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

So let's not be both misleading and rude and insulting to other posters. Right? Let's keep the personal insults out of it, because you're classy, right? I've highlighted all the non-insult stuff in your post, just so we can keep focused. Your insults are just extraneous personal bullshit from you.

yeah cause you are the world leader in classiness and being respectful.

You are probably the rudest person on this whole site, that is why people have such a problem with you. Because you pretend that you are better than everyone and are just so high class and knowledgable. You act like you've read every page of every book in the library of congress.

Well you dish it better than anyone, so man up and take it... i know you are good at that.

& I'm not being mean... I'm just being intellectually honest.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

yeah cause you are the world leader in classiness and being respectful.

You are probably the rudest person on this whole site, that is why people have such a problem with you. Because you pretend that you are better than everyone and are just so high class and knowledgable. You act like you've read every page of every book in the library of congress.

Well you dish it better than anyone, so man up and take it... i know you are good at that.

& I'm not being mean... I'm just being intellectually honest.

When someone points out your personal attacks and calls them classless, yet ignores your personal attacks and responds to the content of your post anyway, always best to double down and prove beyond a doubt you didn't deserve that respect

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

When someone points out your personal attacks and calls them classless, yet ignores your personal attacks and responds to the content of your post anyway, always best to double down and prove beyond a doubt you didn't deserve that respect

oooooooohhhhkaaaaay

what ever makes your brain happy.

Riot, you should move to a state that has medical marijuana. It will help your knee and your mind!

^^ see I'm giving out positive advice that is in your best interest

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

oooooooohhhhkaaaaay

what ever makes your brain happy.

Riot, you should move to a state that has medical marijuana. It will help your knee and your mind!

^^ see I'm giving out positive advice that is in your best interest

Your a nice person. Im sure Riot can tell us where all the money is going to come from to pay for this BS insurance. My guess is our brain dead and clueless Pres will take it from the military, retired military, and Social Security. Instead of of a %1.4 raise next year will be a %.5 raise. Yet alot of items a person has to have the price of it goes up.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Your a nice person. Im sure Riot can tell us where all the money is going to come from to pay for this BS insurance. My guess is our brain dead and clueless Pres will take it from the military, retired military, and Social Security. Instead of of a %1.4 raise next year will be a %.5 raise. Yet alot of items a person has to have the price of it goes up.

Why should retired military or any government employee get a guaranteed pent ion? The rest of us working stiffs are on our own with 401k's ira's or SEP's. You are against entitlements except those lining your pocket. I'm sick of supporting your worthless ass

And don't give me the horseshit about protecting me. There hasnt
been a need for that since the 1940's.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

Why should retired military or any government employee get a guaranteed pent ion? The rest of us working stiffs are on our own with 401k's ira's or SEP's. You are against entitlements except those lining your pocket. I'm sick of supporting your worthless ass

Im sick of a worthless person like you. Maybe this country needs to go to a draft. Im sure you would be too old to get drafted. You would more than likely be a draft dodger anyways. You should of found a job where you could get a pension. DONT BE A WHINY PERSON LIKE YOU ARE WHEN IT COMES TO THE MILITARY? Have you served in any wars? Did you miss any time raising your children because of the military? I still have to work to support my family because my pension doesnt give me the luxury of not working. I LOVE IT YOUR JEALOUS AT ME BECAUSE I COLLECT A PENSION AND HAVE MUCH BETTER MEDICAL INSURANCE THAN YOU. I EARNED THE RIGHT TO HAVE IT. You had a chance when you was young to join the military more than likely. The military won't take a whiny person like you.

Im sick of the whiny FRAUD that you are.


If you don't like that the military gets a pension write to your congressman and have them laugh at you.

I also work and pay taxes just like you.

Didnt you mean PENSION VICE PENT ION?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Im sick of a worthless SOB like you. Maybe this country needs to go to a draft. Im sure you would be too old to get drafted. You would more than likely be a draft dodger anyways. You should of found a job where you could get a pension. DONT BE A WHINY B TCH LIKE YOU ARE WHEN IT COMES TO THE MILITARY? Have you served in any wars? Did you miss any time raising your children because of the military? I still have to work to support my family because my pension doesnt give me the luxury of not working. I LOVE IT YOUR JEALOUS AT ME BECAUSE I COLLECT AND HAVE MUCH BETTER MEDICAL INSURANCE THAN YOU. I EARNED THE RIGHT TO HAVE IT B TCH. You had a chance when you was young to join the military more than likely. The military won't take a whiny b tch like you.

Im sick of a whiny b tch that you are.

You joined because you had no other options youfukin moron. I am bringing it up to show what kind of hypocrite you are. I have no problem with military pensions but it sickens me to hear you harp about entitlements while collecting yours double****infisted. You are a worthlessfuk. Go cry to stEve to get your thread pulled *****.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Im sure Riot can tell us where all the money is going to come from to pay for this BS insurance. My guess is our brain dead and clueless Pres will take it from the military, retired military, and Social Security.

No. The people who buy this BS insurance pay for it. To those private capitalistic companies who sell it to them and make a profit.

There is no insurance to purchase from the government.

The poor people on Medicaid will be paid for as they are now. Except the PPACA did do some financial adjustments to extend the life of the Medicaid trust by 12 years.

The government will give vouchers to those low income but not poverty-level people that can't afford insurance, to help them pay for a portion of it, based upon income. That is paid for in several ways, none of which involves SS, Medicare or the VA, or retired or military.

Seriously - here are the major provisions in the bill, and how it works, written in plain english, click on it and go read it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient...dable_Care_Act

Nobody says you have to like it, or agree with it - but you do have the responsibility to dislike or disagree with actual content in the bill, not imaginary, made up talking points of fear mongering.

See, the anger you hold over things in your imagination about this is probably raising your blood pressure, and I'm helping pay for your VA insurance. Preventive care is a good thing.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

The government will give vouchers to those low income but not poverty-level people that can't afford insurance, to help them pay for a portion of it, based upon income. That is paid for in several ways, none of which involves SS, Medicare or the VA, or retired or military..

Give me a break it's paid for in taxes and then those taxed get to wait in line with those who received 'vouchers' in many cases for the same Dr. test. It's nothing more than a massive expansion of medicaid.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Give me a break it's paid for in taxes and then those taxed get to wait in line with those who received 'vouchers' in many cases for the same Dr. test. It's nothing more than a massive expansion of medicaid.

So .. you don't like sharing a doctor with other people who didn't buy 100% of their own insurance? That's weird.

(the vouchers are for purchasing insurance, not healthcare)

Maybe there are superelite doctors and hospitals that are 100% insurance company or private pay, with no other payment plans, you can go to so you don't catch cooties waiting in line with other patients.

Right now I share doctors and hospitals with other people who have no insurance at all, so I'll be happy when they can finally afford to purchase insurance themselves (with some help) - it will lower my costs.

And I really don't care how other people pay their bills. I mostly worry about mine.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

oooooooohhhhkaaaaay

what ever makes your brain happy.

Riot, you should move to a state that has medical marijuana. It will help your knee and your mind!

^^ see I'm giving out positive advice that is in your best interest

My knee was fixed and is fine, thanks. Played indoor tennis on it two days ago. Lawsuit against insurance company for illegal rescission still pending. Doctor and hospital paid completely out of my pocket. Need to buy a saddle horse now that I can ride again.

But I'm sure you don't care, so just ignore all that.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

My knee was fixed and is fine, thanks. Played indoor tennis on it two days ago. Lawsuit against insurance company for illegal rescission still pending. Doctor and hospital paid completely out of my pocket. Need to buy a saddle horse now that I can ride again.

But I'm sure you don't care, so just ignore all that.

Hope you get your wish in getting a saddle horse.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Hope you get your wish in getting a saddle horse.

If you come to Lexington you can ride it

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

If you come to Lexington you can ride it

How nice of you to offer that to me.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

My knee was fixed and is fine, thanks. Played indoor tennis on it two days ago. Lawsuit against insurance company for illegal rescission still pending. Doctor and hospital paid completely out of my pocket. Need to buy a saddle horse now that I can ride again.

But I'm sure you don't care, so just ignore all that.

I hope you kick their butts in this lawsuit!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

I hope you kick their butts in this lawsuit!

Thanks. Me too, but I doubt it will ever happen. They outlawyer us. People have won rather easily against this, but you have to hang on for the 6-8 years of expensive delay the insurance company lawyers are expert at, until it gets to court. People can't afford that, when they are risking losing their houses to pay for a sudden hospital bill the insurance company was supposed to pay, then decided not to.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Thanks. Me too, but I doubt it will ever happen. They outlawyer us. People have won rather easily against this, but you have to hang on for the 6-8 years of expensive delay the insurance company lawyers are expert at, until it gets to court. People can't afford that, when they are risking losing their houses to pay for a sudden hospital bill the insurance company was supposed to pay, then decided not to.

i was gonna say before... dont spend too much money on lawyers!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

My knee was fixed and is fine, thanks. Played indoor tennis on it two days ago. Lawsuit against insurance company for illegal rescission still pending. Doctor and hospital paid completely out of my pocket. Need to buy a saddle horse now that I can ride again.

But I'm sure you don't care, so just ignore all that.

No i'm happy for you that your knee is fine. Good luck with riding.. I'm scared of heights. I prefer ground work with horses and / or betting on them (every once and awhile)

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

No i'm happy for you that your knee is fine. Good luck with riding.. I'm scared of heights. I prefer ground work with horses and / or betting on them (every once and awhile)

Connemara pony! A Shetland pony cart! You could even do cross-country