If ObamaCare is so great?

Nascar1966 · #1 01-31-2011, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

There is no public option or single payer in the bill. Why do you think the left was so upset at Obama over that? Have you read even the basic summary of it? You'd know that to be true.

The majority of Americans are quite in favor of this at this point (check the polls), and no, doubtful it could ever get repealed, even if a GOP President were to get in during 2012 (as America will not give up the good things in the bill they are already receiving). Yes it could (and probably will) be amended over time. It can certainly be made stronger, better.

Two judges voted it constitutional, two now have not, and 14 have said the case had no merit and refused to hear it. 16 to 2 so far. Implementation of the bill will go forward, and the Supreme Court will get it eventually.

I hope it gets repealled. Why should my taxpaying money go to helping someone else. Is anyone going to help me in paying for my son to go to college? Wonder if the judges who have said there is no merit are bought and paid for?

Riot · #2 02-01-2011, 06:58 PM

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Is anyone going to help me in paying for my son to go to college?

Well, just the United States government. Pell grants, and low-interest student loans.

BTW, Obama had the laws changed to cut out the useless middleman (banks) regarding making student loans in order to save us money (the banks were just making a profit off having the students fill out the paperwork, forward to the government, then handing the student the government check)

Nascar1966 · #3 02-01-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Well, just the United States government. Pell grants, and low-interest student loans.

BTW, Obama had the laws changed to cut out the useless middleman (banks) regarding making student loans in order to save us money (the banks were just making a profit off having the students fill out the paperwork, forward to the government, then handing the student the government check)

How is that helping me pay for my son's college when it has to be payed back? Other people get the free ride for college.

Riot · #4 02-01-2011, 07:30 PM

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How is that helping me pay for my son's college when it has to be payed back? Other people get the free ride for college.

Pell Grants are free, not paid back. Be sure you apply for those.

I know the VA helps you go to college - does it help your kids get an education?

Sometimes it's best if the kid isn't living at home to get financial aid. Other people that get a free ride usually do so on the merits of their scholarship abilities.

But there are literally thousands of gift scholarships available that are never claimed for most schools (maybe a school has a scholarship for people from a certain town who are the children of a bricklayer, for example!) The kid has to go sit and look through the book in the financial aid office, or on the computer, to find those, and apply. Always worth it!

And there are work-study programs, where the kid works up to 20 hours a week. Very valuable help on Dad's wallet.

My niece was an RA in a dorm, and got a free room.

The other thing is go to a state school close to home for the first two years of basic classes, it's least expensive, as the state subsidizes the cost. Then if the kid wants a degree for a specific thing from a fancy school, transfer in to do the last 2 years there.

dellinger63 · #5 02-02-2011, 11:34 AM

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Pell Grants are free, not paid back..

You mean to the students who use them they're free. To those paying the bills, they are far from free.

Riot · #6 02-02-2011, 03:31 PM

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You mean to the students who use them they're free. To those paying the bills, they are far from free.

Yeah, I personally find it a real nightmare, having a few pennies of my tax dollars going to help deserving lower income kids achieve a higher education and benefit our society

Nascar1966 · #7 02-02-2011, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Pell Grants are free, not paid back. Be sure you apply for those.

I know the VA helps you go to college - does it help your kids get an education?

Sometimes it's best if the kid isn't living at home to get financial aid. Other people that get a free ride usually do so on the merits of their scholarship abilities.

But there are literally thousands of gift scholarships available that are never claimed for most schools (maybe a school has a scholarship for people from a certain town who are the children of a bricklayer, for example!) The kid has to go sit and look through the book in the financial aid office, or on the computer, to find those, and apply. Always worth it!

And there are work-study programs, where the kid works up to 20 hours a week. Very valuable help on Dad's wallet.

My niece was an RA in a dorm, and got a free room.

The other thing is go to a state school close to home for the first two years of basic classes, it's least expensive, as the state subsidizes the cost. Then if the kid wants a degree for a specific thing from a fancy school, transfer in to do the last 2 years there.

I get no help from the VA. I was also told that I couldn't give my son the money that I have from the GI Bill. Supposedly the Army can do it. I am not going to let my son waste two years of school by going to a state school. He is taking classes other than the basics right now. I will do everything to make sure my son gets through college. If it means working a second job part time I will do it.

Riot · #8 02-02-2011, 03:34 PM

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I will do everything to make sure my son gets through college. If it means working a second job part time I will do it.

He's lucky to have your support behind him

Danzig · #9 02-01-2011, 08:27 PM

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How is that helping me pay for my son's college when it has to be payed back? Other people get the free ride for college.

tell him to get good grades and a scholarship.

actually, encourage him to learn a trade. it's not just doctors we'll be lacking in, but electricians, plumbers, hvac techs, and auto mechanics.

Nascar1966 · #10 02-02-2011, 10:57 AM

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tell him to get good grades and a scholarship.

actually, encourage him to learn a trade. it's not just doctors we'll be lacking in, but electricians, plumbers, hvac techs, and auto mechanics.

The past grading he made Dean's list with a 3.78 GPA. ALso he was Cum Laude.

jms62 · #11 02-02-2011, 11:24 AM

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The past grading he made Dean's list with a 3.78 GPA. ALso he was Cum Laude.

Thats awesome. You mentioned you were in the Navy when your son was born right?

Nascar1966 · #12 02-02-2011, 12:13 PM

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Thats awesome. You mentioned you were in the Navy when your son was born right?

My son I adopted him, he was from a previous marriage that my wife in. I have raised him since he was 4. Thank you for complimenting my son. I was in the Navy when I got married.