Not enough or too much?

[Port Conway Lane]

You don't see this in the afternoon with professional jocks

exactly why this is apples and oranges,don't pretend it's not.It has nothing to do with use or misuse of whips.

And yes, they feel (know) exactly where they can, and cannot, strike a horse with a whip while riding

There is simply not enough information in these two incidents for anyone, including myself, to judge wether or not there was abuse and if these two should have been fined. The fact that they were fined would suggest the races in question were observed by the experts so I concede to their judgement.

Don't complain the next time you get nosed out of the tail end of a superfecta if the jockey chose not to use the whip because he was afraid to be fined.