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Old 01-02-2011, 10:27 AM
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You talk like you know what to do to catch those that are taking an edge..

I'm curious what exactly you suggest for crafting that better dragnet?

Juan Carlos Guerrero was 72% W/P/S in 2010. Clearly, no trainer is able to deliver more for his owners then Mr. Guerrero! If you have a hard knocking claimer on the east coast Mr. G is cash money. 70 plus % of the time Mr. G is delivering slot fueled monsta purses for him peeps. And people say the little guy is dead in racing. Here is a perfect example how a little guy can claim a horse for between 5 and 10k and run him back 40 days later and get a terriffic slot bloated check. It goes to show you no matter how bad things are someone is always working harder to get the job done, a true professional. Kudos Mr G. you rock!
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Old 01-02-2011, 12:40 PM
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Juan Carlos Guerrero was 72% W/P/S in 2010. Clearly, no trainer is able to deliver more for his owners then Mr. Guerrero! If you have a hard knocking claimer on the east coast Mr. G is cash money. 70 plus % of the time Mr. G is delivering slot fueled monsta purses for him peeps. And people say the little guy is dead in racing. Here is a perfect example how a little guy can claim a horse for between 5 and 10k and run him back 40 days later and get a terriffic slot bloated check. It goes to show you no matter how bad things are someone is always working harder to get the job done, a true professional. Kudos Mr G. you rock!

What Guerrero is doing is making what guys like Dutrow and Wolfson do seem like child's play. I know Philly park is a bit of a dump and the racing there isn't much, but come on....to let a guy like this continue to do what he is doing? Pretty sad on Philly Park's part.
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Old 01-02-2011, 12:51 PM
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What Guerrero is doing is making what guys like Dutrow and Wolfson do seem like child's play. I know Philly park is a bit of a dump and the racing there isn't much, but come on....to let a guy like this continue to do what he is doing? Pretty sad on Philly Park's part.
The guy is stealing. Pletcher's horses are in the money 52% of the time. the very best of the cheaters are in the high 50's maybe low 60's.. Juan Carlos is 72% that is insane.. Parx's purses are terriffic so even if it a hole in the ground for racing it still offers a place to race a horse that isnt very fast and make a buck.. Juan carlos is just stealing and nobody cares
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Old 01-02-2011, 02:10 PM
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The guy is stealing. Pletcher's horses are in the money 52% of the time. the very best of the cheaters are in the high 50's maybe low 60's.. Juan Carlos is 72% that is insane.. Parx's purses are terriffic so even if it a hole in the ground for racing it still offers a place to race a horse that isnt very fast and make a buck.. Juan carlos is just stealing and nobody cares
I can't figure out who should get the "Best Cheater" Eclipse for 2010. Either Guerrero, or Mike Chambers at Turf Paradise. It is way too close to call. Chambers is 30 for 50 at the meet last I checked...winners, not in the money.
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Old 01-02-2011, 02:31 PM
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I can't figure out who should get the "Best Cheater" Eclipse for 2010. Either Guerrero, or Mike Chambers at Turf Paradise. It is way too close to call. Chambers is 30 for 50 at the meet last I checked...winners, not in the money.
Not sure why anyone would want to race or bet Turf paradise. I see john Sherriffs had 84 starts for the year? Is training his hobby or career?
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Old 01-02-2011, 04:19 PM
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Not sure why anyone would want to race or bet Turf paradise. I see john Sherriffs had 84 starts for the year? Is training his hobby or career?
Now we know why he didn't travel with Zenyatta. There is no way to oversee such a huge operation from the road.
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Old 01-02-2011, 04:58 PM
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Not sure why anyone would want to race or bet Turf paradise. I see john Sherriffs had 84 starts for the year? Is training his hobby or career?
Yet there are people voting for him as Trainer of the Year.

Too funny.
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Old 01-03-2011, 07:36 AM
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Yet there are people voting for him as Trainer of the Year.

Too funny.
You have to understand that training Zenyatta was very involved.
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Old 01-02-2011, 02:32 PM
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I can't figure out who should get the "Best Cheater" Eclipse for 2010. Either Guerrero, or Mike Chambers at Turf Paradise. It is way too close to call. Chambers is 30 for 50 at the meet last I checked...winners, not in the money.
He's just lucky is all. How dare you
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