now that santa anita has gone back to dirt

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

He has no point. He is wrong. Your buttboy Doug agrees with me. Get on board big boy.

I have no point? Have you read this thread? Your status as board douchebag is firmly in place but seriously, your "I'm smarter than you mantra" is old and tiresome.

You have done nothing but spout a tagline about takeout going up and starving the beast then tried to make a stupid comparison to taxation being a deterrent. Meanwhile, I've tried to tell you that from a business perspective the takeout increase is a viable last ditch effort for an entity that is failing slowly but surely.

So hey, if you have a second, break down where each wagering dollar in CA goes and let me know where you can trim from.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Meanwhile, I've tried to tell you that from a business perspective the takeout increase is a viable last ditch effort for an entity that is failing slowly but surely.

Last ditch effort, huh?

Sort of like in a 'sending pictures of your cock to a girl who isn't interested in going out with you' kind of way.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Last ditch effort, huh?

Sort of like in a 'sending pictures of your cock to a girl who isn't interested in going out with you' kind of way.

Brett tried. Wrangler http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/snl-br...re-commercial/

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Last ditch effort, huh?

Sort of like in a 'sending pictures of your cock to a girl who isn't interested in going out with you' kind of way.

So from a business perspective, you believe the takeout increase will be a detrimental move? I'll be more than happy to post the daily handle figures for SA each day compared to the same period in 2009-2010. That's basically what this boils down to, but feel free to insert any pertinent cock joke.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

So from a business perspective, you believe the takeout increase will be a detrimental move? I'll be more than happy to post the daily handle figures for SA each day compared to the same period in 2009-2010. That's basically what this boils down to, but feel free to insert any pertinent cock joke.

Nope. Nice try. There will be a bounce from going back to dirt that has nothing to do with the takeout point.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Nope. Nice try. There will be a bounce from going back to dirt that has nothing to do with the takeout point.

And supporting a takeout increase because you know your product is about to become more attractive to your customers is a bad business move how?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

And supporting a takeout increase because you know your product is about to become more attractive to your customers is a bad business move how?

Huh, we are talking passed each other? They will get bigger fields as a result of returning to dirt. They would get bigger fields if they would cut down on the racing in general. And they wouldn't have to raise takeout to do it.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Plus why anyone is supporting 4 and 5 horse fields is beyond me.

Originally Posted by randallscott35

They will get bigger fields as a result of returning to dirt.

Wait, so which is it?

I would never argue that supporting a bad product is a good idea, especially when you think the price is too high. However, my point from the beginning has been that, dirt plus increased purses based on increased handle is going to lead to increased interest.

SA could have tried to run on a broken track, had a few cancellations, continued to watch their handle slide as it has at the last God knows how many synth meets. Or they could have switched to dirt, been able to bring back some barns that left or bring in some that are new and develop a better product. They chose the latter. I think they made the right call.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

So from a business perspective, you believe the takeout increase will be a detrimental move?

You're going from an already draconian level - to a little higher level.

Detrimental move? Maybe not in the extreme short-term - but in the long term, yes.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You're going from an already draconian level - to a little higher level.

Detrimental move? Maybe not in the extreme short-term - but in the long term, yes.

I believe in the early 20th century takeout was around 10% or less.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You're going from an already draconian level - to a little higher level.

Detrimental move? Maybe not in the extreme short-term - but in the long term, yes.

It's sort of a two-fold issue. SA has enough helping them externally to have a good meet (dirt and everything that comes with it). That's why my opinion is what it is regarding SA itself.

However, once Hollywood rolls around it becomes a problem. The only thing worse than betting on a series of 5-7 horse fields with huge favorites and a 20.68% take would be doing the same thing with a 22.68% take.

This doesn't really change the accuracy of the opinion that decreased takeout will drive up business or increase stability.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

This has been a Riot like performance from you in this thread NTamm.

You have dropped too many big words for it to be a Nascar like effort.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

This has been a Riot like performance from you in this thread NTamm.

You have dropped too many big words for it to be a Nascar like effort.

I'd like to think I'm being a tad more rational.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I have no point? Have you read this thread? Your status as board douchebag is firmly in place but seriously, your "I'm smarter than you mantra" is old and tiresome.

You have done nothing but spout a tagline about takeout going up and starving the beast then tried to make a stupid comparison to taxation being a deterrent. Meanwhile, I've tried to tell you that from a business perspective the takeout increase is a viable last ditch effort for an entity that is failing slowly but surely.

So hey, if you have a second, break down where each wagering dollar in CA goes and let me know where you can trim from.

Proof is in the pudding. All I know is you don't raise taxes during a depression and you don't raise takeout during a depression. And I realize they didn't on WPS but it doesn't matter....Plus why anyone is supporting 4 and 5 horse fields is beyond me. The inner has never looked better.