now that santa anita has gone back to dirt

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Facepalm.



Double facepalm.

At the very least, the increased purses at the beginning of the meet have attracted Steve Asmussen to go out there for the first time and for trainers that left like Eric Guillot to return. Those guys have the horsepower to help a meet simply because of their numbers and the variety of horses they have. The assumption that increased handle will enable them to sustain those purse levels is hardly a crazy one.

I'm interested to know why you think decreasing takeout will lead to some great revival of racing. Exchange wagering has a significantly better chance to help turn things around. Going from 20.68% on exotics to 22.68% while leaving the WPS takeout the same is going to make a difference for CA racing. The CA racing model is completely broken. Trying to survive with meets like what they're offering at Hollywood is never going to work.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

At the very least, the increased purses at the beginning of the meet have attracted Steve Asmussen to go out there for the first time and for trainers that left like Eric Guillot to return. Those guys have the horsepower to help a meet simply because of their numbers and the variety of horses they have. The assumption that increased handle will enable them to sustain those purse levels is hardly a crazy one.

I'm interested to know why you think decreasing takeout will lead to some great revival of racing. Exchange wagering has a significantly better chance to help turn things around. Going from 20.68% on exotics to 22.68% while leaving the WPS takeout the same is going to make a difference for CA racing. The CA racing model is completely broken. Trying to survive with meets like what they're offering at Hollywood is never going to work.

So let's make takeout 50% for WPS and then we can have really really big purses. I'm sure that will work!

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

So let's make takeout 50% for WPS and then we can have really really big purses. I'm sure that will work!

How ignorant can 1 be?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

How ignorant can 1 be?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

So let's make takeout 50% for WPS and then we can have really really big purses. I'm sure that will work!

Yeah, that's exactly what I said.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Yeah, that's exactly what I said.

Pretty much. Sadly the econ lesson of taxing something makes it a deterrent hasn't been learned.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Pretty much. Sadly the econ lesson of taxing something makes it a deterrent hasn't been learned.

If I needed an econ lesson I would have given you a ring. I don't. You grossly exaggerated what I said, attempted to pass it off as what I said then attempted to point out the inaccuracy in what I said, when it was really your insane exaggeration that you actually mocked.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

If I needed an econ lesson I would have given you a ring. I don't. You grossly exaggerated what I said, attempted to pass it off as what I said then attempted to point out the inaccuracy in what I said, when it was really your insane exaggeration that you actually mocked.

I can't help you if you don't want to help yourself.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I can't help you if you don't want to help yourself.

Your taking it to a new level with this ****.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

At the very least, the increased purses at the beginning of the meet have attracted Steve Asmussen to go out there for the first time and for trainers that left like Eric Guillot to return.

They have Asmussen back for one meet because of dirt (he will be gone come HP) and they get Guillot to return ... wow.

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I'm interested to know why you think decreasing takeout will lead to some great revival of racing.

It's a long, long term process - but with the takeout rates where they are at - betting horses will always be viewed as sucker bait. The slide will continue.

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Exchange wagering has a significantly better chance to help turn things around.

I'd believe in Santa Clause, the Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny before I believe the powers that be have enough of a clue to not screw up exchange wagering.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

They have Asmussen back for one meet because of dirt (he will be gone come HP) and they get Guillot to return ... wow.

It's a long, long term process - but with the takeout rates where they are at - betting horses will always be viewed as sucker bait. The slide will continue.

I'd believe in Santa Clause, the Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny before I believe the powers that be have enough of a clue to not screw up exchange wagering.

Why should SA give a crap about Hollywood? We're talking about Santa Anita right now. Asmussen could to to Thailand after the meet for all SA cares.

Whether the takeout is 20%, 22%, or 30% the bettors are going to be looked at as suckers. What other group of people are willing to bet into something that's filtered so heavily? The takeout going up 2% is not going to change the way Frank Stronach, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jeff Mullins or Joel Rosario view the bettors.

I agree with you about exchange wagering. When push comes to shove they'll f.uck it up I'm sure.