The new party of no?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

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Pelosi will lead Democrats "in pulling on the president's shirttails to make sure that he doesn't move from center-right to far-right," said Rep. Lynn Woolsey, D-Calif., a co-chair of the liberal Progressive Caucus in the House


Anyone who believes that the President is center-right is seeing the world through very far left colored glasses. The Progressive Caucus is the far left of the party and when they are speaking for you as the minority leader, well you dont have to be a math whiz to add 2 and 2 together.

She's talking about his position while compromising. 2 weeks ago, he was considering extending the tax break for the rich (a far Right position.). If he extends any of that tax break for them(at all,) guess what? That's Center-Right.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

She's talking about his position while compromising. 2 weeks ago, he was considering extending the tax break for the rich (a far Right position.). If he extends any of that tax break for them(at all,) guess what? That's Center-Right.

Tax cuts are now considered a far right position?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Tax cuts are now considered a far right position?

For people making over 250k, yes, extending the Bush tax cut is a far right position.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

See, this is a good example of how Republicans aren't into negotiation, or compromise. The President freezes Fed Gov't workers pay, and what happens? They simply call for more cutting of the Federal workers pay etc. There's no new offer to have the rich give up something, only more attack on the middle.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

See, this is a good example of how Republicans aren't into negotiation, or compromise. The President freezes Fed Gov't workers pay, and what happens? They simply call for more cutting of the Federal workers pay etc. There's no new offer to have the rich give up something, only more attack on the middle.

40K in benifits times 1.35 million employees comes to a lot of money. Not only are the workers overpaid there are far too many of them. Freezing their inflated pay and pensions does nothing but insure their fat pay and beni's. How about reducing their pay 20% and reducing beni's by 30K and allow Americans to feel they're getting some value for their buck and allow Gov. workes to receive raises according to factors like job performance? Now there's a novel idea I suppose is anti-democratic and middle class. LOL

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

walk into any dmv or consulate and then tell me what the value is..

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

40K in benifits times 1.35 million employees comes to a lot of money. Not only are the workers overpaid there are far too many of them. Freezing their inflated pay and pensions does nothing but insure their fat pay and beni's. How about reducing their pay 20% and reducing beni's by 30K and allow Americans to feel they're getting some value for their buck and allow Gov. workes to receive raises according to factors like job performance? Now there's a novel idea I suppose is anti-democratic and middle class. LOL

Yea, well, how about you giving something on the other end of the spectrum? You, of course, didn't tell us what the wealthy are gunna give up to solve this deficit problem. You just want middle class people to give up stuff. You say they're overpaid? Listen, I had a dog that wouldn't eat, or drink. He was getting dehydrated. I knew he had to have an I.V., or he might not make it through the night. So, I took him in. They said leave him etc., and like 8 hours later, they wanted $1100-1200 or so bucks. So, please don't give me this crap about bloated. There is so much more "bloated" going on amongst parasites (like these people.) You're very selective about what's bloated. If it's the middle class that's slightly bloated, then, you're concerned. Otherwise, you aren't bothered by it at all. Before Federal Workers get pay cuts etc., I am 100% sure that I'd rather have that Vet pay more money in taxes. I know who's more bloated. Now, if you really want to cut the deficit, then, why don't you (at least) suggest that both sides give up something. BTW, that event I mentioned (dog) is not the free market in action. There are other people that would be very willing to give that dog an i.v., and anti- nausea meds. In a free market, it would be legal for them to do so. When the wealthy do stuff to inhibit a free market, they get a free pass.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

See, this is a good example of how Republicans aren't into negotiation, or compromise. The President freezes Fed Gov't workers pay, and what happens? They simply call for more cutting of the Federal workers pay etc. There's no new offer to have the rich give up something, only more attack on the middle.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/11...Clink2%7C28576

Au contraire mon turkish ami.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/11...Clink2%7C28576

Au contraire mon turkish ami.

They got together, and said "hi." There's no agreement. Only agreement is to get together, and see how much they can bend this guy over the sink. You think the GOP will agree to have any of the tax cut not be extended for the wealthy? I don't. So, why are they talkin'?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

They got together, and said "hi." There's no agreement. Only agreement is to get together, and see how much they can bend this guy over the sink. You think the GOP will agree to have any of the tax cut not be extended for the wealthy? I don't. So, why are they talkin'?

Did you see the photo with Obama having his hand on Cantor's shoulder, and McConnell is glaring so hard his eyes are about to pop out of his face? Man, that guy hates Obama.

Naw, there will be no compromise from the GOP. They are not changing their stripes to do something different now. They were all over the news this morning saying they will not compromise a lick.

I did get some small joy from telephoning McConnell's office this afternoon (he's my senator) and leaving the message with the staff that I consider his actions over the past two years terribly obstructive for the country, and today's historic blockage of extending federal unemployment extensions in the face of 9.6% joblessness was the last straw. Told the staff he obviously doesn't care about the thousands of people here in KY that will be foodless and starving within the next week. And he is responsible for deepening the recession and hurting our economy by taking that spending money away. Asshats. I love democracy!

But on a serious note, this is a disaster in KY, we have thousands of unemployed, people will literally be starving. I'll do the good deed and drop off a couple bags of grocery contributions at the food bank tomorrow - their contributions have been skeletal, as the recession is so bad, but the need has never been greater. They are now about to be overwhelmed. These are real people that will suffer. Letting our own starve in America. What have we come to?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

For people making over 250k, yes, extending the Bush tax cut is a far right position.

The vast majority of people making over 250k are hardly considered the mega rich.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The vast majority of people making over 250k are hardly considered the mega rich.

even when its two working spouses..125 each..no way ..thats minimum requirement to be middle class

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

even when its two working spouses..125 each..no way ..thats minimum requirement to be middle class

I paid $42 to park my car for 4 hours in manhattan the other night. I am thinking that $250k a year in NYC may make you eligible for entitlement programs there.