Are the Patriots better without Randy Moss?

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

That was the pre-move to Baltimore Browns. It was a completely different organization than the current Browns. A ton of guys won coaching in that organization before the move and still are currently in Baltimore. It's an organization with 5 NFL championships. Winning 11 there was hardly anything special at all.

You're right, Cleveland really has a rich tradition of winning. You guys have had three 11 win seasons in the last 50 years. Belichick coached one of them.