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Old 11-22-2010, 11:59 PM
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What's your problem with him exactly? His talent level or his bridesmaid tendency?

He probably would have been competitive in the BC Dirt Mile given the pace setup. The cutback from 9-10f races should help.
Quality Road would have won the mile. W/ that pace setup Blame, Zenyatta, L@L and Fly Down would have all won it, right?
That argument sucks. Every single race this horse runs in, he is supposed to win. Why cant he just stink?
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Old 11-23-2010, 12:08 AM
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Quality Road would have won the mile. W/ that pace setup Blame, Zenyatta, L@L and Fly Down would have all won it, right?
That argument sucks. Every single race this horse runs in, he is supposed to win. Why cant he just stink?
No way, jose.
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Old 11-23-2010, 12:13 AM
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No way, jose.
Prolly not with the pace setup, but you get the point. Plus since the BC, several ppl around here not named Joey S or Jose have said that QR would have won it.
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Old 11-23-2010, 01:11 AM
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Every single race this horse runs in, he is supposed to win.
You're exaggerating. He's been favored in 3 out of 7 races this year, winning one of those. He's run well chasing the likes of Blame and Quality Road, neither of whom will start in this race.
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Old 11-23-2010, 10:18 AM
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Quality Road would have won the mile. W/ that pace setup Blame, Zenyatta, L@L and Fly Down would have all won it, right?
That argument sucks. Every single race this horse runs in, he is supposed to win. Why cant he just stink?
he does not stink. hes just not as good as all the horses you just mentioned. if he runs a level lower, he could win ALOT. i think this horse has a great shot saturday. if he loses to these( at a flat mile)....i'll agree. the state bred even looks ok against this bunch. we can see the effects of the BC....this is pretty much the "has been" bunch that picks up checks where the best horses don't run.
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Old 11-23-2010, 12:03 PM
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I think he stinks. He needs a perfect trip and a bad field (relatively) to win. Then again, any fatman would beat a field of nonagenarians around the block.

Musket Man's 'defining' race is the MET Mile: perfect setup, with Warrior's Reward providing him with a once-in-a-very-fortuitous-career setup, and he hangs like a rat.

And people want to give this horse the benefit of the doubt?

But he did 'PRESS' QR in the QR in the Whitney, didn't he? So that has to count for something. (Which was the trip that got at least one of the INTELLIGENCIA on to QR in the Classic. ha ha ha)
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Old 11-23-2010, 12:17 PM
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It's interesting to see how different people handle losing. Some work harder, look inside themselves, and try to figure out what they might be doing wrong, and use this to attempt to stem the tide.

And....some people crack up.
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Old 11-23-2010, 02:49 PM
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It's interesting to see how different people handle losing. Some work harder, look inside themselves, and try to figure out what they might be doing wrong, and use this to attempt to stem the tide.

And....some people crack up.
Musket Man is horrible. The fact that you touted him for weeks leading into the Classic really made me wonder. Watching the MSG/NYRA show w/ friends I said to myself, this is easily his worst pick that I can ever remember him making.
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Old 11-23-2010, 03:30 PM
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Musket Man is horrible.
...and Warrior's Reward is somehow really good?
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Old 11-23-2010, 04:00 PM
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Musket Man, assigned 117 pounds, is one of 10 horses expected for the Cigar Mile. Others expected to run include Girolamo (120 pounds), Haynesfield (120), Bribon (119), Vineyard Haven (119), Friend or Foe (115), Half Metal Jacket (115), Noble’s Promise (115), Jersey Town (114), and Soaring Empire (114).

Wonder where Arson Squad and Our Dark Knight are going then??

In same article, Ryan said Musket Man would definitely come back to run in 2011 as a 5-year-old and most likely be pointed to one-turn races such as the Carter and Met Mile.
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Old 11-23-2010, 06:10 PM
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...and Warrior's Reward is somehow really good?
Well he did beat Musket Man, in a race where he became a Grade 1 winner.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:47 AM
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Musket Man is horrible. The fact that you touted him for weeks leading into the Classic really made me wonder. Watching the MSG/NYRA show w/ friends I said to myself, this is easily his worst pick that I can ever remember him making.
this tells me. you really don't know how to bet. musket man was ok relative to price....the worst bets were people picking looking at lucky and blind luck. when people pick overmatched horses at SHORT odds...thats the definition of a bad pick. you should really learn a thing or two before acting like an expert. but then again i love when folks like you bet.
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Old 11-24-2010, 11:54 AM
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this tells me. you really don't know how to bet. musket man was ok relative to price....the worst bets were people picking looking at lucky and blind luck. when people pick overmatched horses at SHORT odds...thats the definition of a bad pick. you should really learn a thing or two before acting like an expert. but then again i love when folks like you bet.


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Old 11-23-2010, 03:00 PM
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I think he stinks.
I've been a fan of this horse for some time now but I suddenly love him even more.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:31 AM
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I think he stinks. He needs a perfect trip and a bad field (relatively) to win. Then again, any fatman would beat a field of nonagenarians around the block.

Musket Man's 'defining' race is the MET Mile: perfect setup, with Warrior's Reward providing him with a once-in-a-very-fortuitous-career setup, and he hangs like a rat.

And people want to give this horse the benefit of the doubt?

But he did 'PRESS' QR in the QR in the Whitney, didn't he? So that has to count for something. (Which was the trip that got at least one of the INTELLIGENCIA on to QR in the Classic. ha ha ha)
you are right...."stinks" is relative . but its not like he loses the first at aqueduct against 7,500 claimers. he pretty much loses against the best around. if they were a little more realistic with ENTERING this horse i think he could beat this bunch he faces saturday REGULARLY. he probably would of had a good shot in that ridiculous mile a few weeks ago. but he ran where he had no shot whatsoever. of course, everything i'm saying is wrong if he gets trounced saturday. if this horse loses by anything more than length....he does suck!
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