Musket Man back?

RolloTomasi · #1 11-22-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Does it matter? He is a horse Joey S has been right about. I said a long long time ago he wont win a race, maybe they will find a bad Grade 3 for him. Well they have not even been able to do that.

What's your problem with him exactly? His talent level or his bridesmaid tendency?

He probably would have been competitive in the BC Dirt Mile given the pace setup. The cutback from 9-10f races should help.

randallscott35 · #2 11-22-2010, 08:26 PM

This race should be worth more money.

NTamm1215 · #3 11-22-2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

This race should be worth more money.

What would be the difference if it was worth $400,000?

randallscott35 · #4 11-22-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

What would be the difference if it was worth $400,000?

Semantics

NTamm1215 · #5 11-22-2010, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Semantics

I'm not sure I understand but I'm reasonably certain the field for this race would be the same if the purse was 400k.

SOREHOOF · #6 11-22-2010, 10:41 PM

He always runs hard. He's going to win one of these. He's always there. I'd be more worried about Friend or Foe.

OldDog · #7 11-23-2010, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

He always runs hard. He's going to win one of these.

I hope so!

RockHardTen1985 · #8 11-22-2010, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

What's your problem with him exactly? His talent level or his bridesmaid tendency?

He probably would have been competitive in the BC Dirt Mile given the pace setup. The cutback from 9-10f races should help.

Quality Road would have won the mile. W/ that pace setup Blame, Zenyatta, L@L and Fly Down would have all won it, right?
That argument sucks. Every single race this horse runs in, he is supposed to win. Why cant he just stink?

hockey2315 · #9 11-23-2010, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Quality Road would have won the mile. W/ that pace setup Blame, Zenyatta, L@L and Fly Down would have all won it, right?
That argument sucks. Every single race this horse runs in, he is supposed to win. Why cant he just stink?

No way, jose.

RockHardTen1985 · #10 11-23-2010, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

No way, jose.

Prolly not with the pace setup, but you get the point. Plus since the BC, several ppl around here not named Joey S or Jose have said that QR would have won it.

RolloTomasi · #11 11-23-2010, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Every single race this horse runs in, he is supposed to win.

You're exaggerating. He's been favored in 3 out of 7 races this year, winning one of those. He's run well chasing the likes of Blame and Quality Road, neither of whom will start in this race.

johnny pinwheel · #12 11-23-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Quality Road would have won the mile. W/ that pace setup Blame, Zenyatta, L@L and Fly Down would have all won it, right?
That argument sucks. Every single race this horse runs in, he is supposed to win. Why cant he just stink?

he does not stink. hes just not as good as all the horses you just mentioned. if he runs a level lower, he could win ALOT. i think this horse has a great shot saturday. if he loses to these( at a flat mile)....i'll agree. the state bred even looks ok against this bunch. we can see the effects of the BC....this is pretty much the "has been" bunch that picks up checks where the best horses don't run.

the_fat_man · #13 11-23-2010, 12:03 PM

I think he stinks. He needs a perfect trip and a bad field (relatively) to win. Then again, any fatman would beat a field of nonagenarians around the block.

Musket Man's 'defining' race is the MET Mile: perfect setup, with Warrior's Reward providing him with a once-in-a-very-fortuitous-career setup, and he hangs like a rat.

And people want to give this horse the benefit of the doubt?

But he did 'PRESS' QR in the QR in the Whitney, didn't he?

So that has to count for something. (Which was the trip that got at least one of the INTELLIGENCIA on to QR in the Classic. ha ha ha)

blackthroatedwind · #14 11-23-2010, 12:17 PM

It's interesting to see how different people handle losing. Some work harder, look inside themselves, and try to figure out what they might be doing wrong, and use this to attempt to stem the tide.

And....some people crack up.

RockHardTen1985 · #15 11-23-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's interesting to see how different people handle losing. Some work harder, look inside themselves, and try to figure out what they might be doing wrong, and use this to attempt to stem the tide.

And....some people crack up.

Musket Man is horrible. The fact that you touted him for weeks leading into the Classic really made me wonder. Watching the MSG/NYRA show w/ friends I said to myself, this is easily his worst pick that I can ever remember him making.

parsixfarms · #16 11-23-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Musket Man is horrible.

...and Warrior's Reward is somehow really good?

johnny pinwheel · #17 11-24-2010, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Musket Man is horrible. The fact that you touted him for weeks leading into the Classic really made me wonder. Watching the MSG/NYRA show w/ friends I said to myself, this is easily his worst pick that I can ever remember him making.

this tells me. you really don't know how to bet. musket man was ok relative to price....the worst bets were people picking looking at lucky and blind luck. when people pick overmatched horses at SHORT odds...thats the definition of a bad pick. you should really learn a thing or two before acting like an expert. but then again i love when folks like you bet.

my miss storm cat · #18 11-23-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I think he stinks.

I've been a fan of this horse for some time now but I suddenly love him even more.

johnny pinwheel · #19 11-24-2010, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I think he stinks. He needs a perfect trip and a bad field (relatively) to win. Then again, any fatman would beat a field of nonagenarians around the block.

Musket Man's 'defining' race is the MET Mile: perfect setup, with Warrior's Reward providing him with a once-in-a-very-fortuitous-career setup, and he hangs like a rat.

And people want to give this horse the benefit of the doubt?

But he did 'PRESS' QR in the QR in the Whitney, didn't he?

So that has to count for something. (Which was the trip that got at least one of the INTELLIGENCIA on to QR in the Classic. ha ha ha)

you are right...."stinks" is relative . but its not like he loses the first at aqueduct against 7,500 claimers. he pretty much loses against the best around. if they were a little more realistic with ENTERING this horse i think he could beat this bunch he faces saturday REGULARLY. he probably would of had a good shot in that ridiculous mile a few weeks ago. but he ran where he had no shot whatsoever. of course, everything i'm saying is wrong if he gets trounced saturday. if this horse loses by anything more than length....he does suck!