Why retire her?

ateamstupid · #1 11-07-2010, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

You know it seems like lately, every year stinks. Whether it's the 3 year old crop, handicap division and so on. What makes you think that there will ever be another (what some percieve as) "STRONG" division/class ever again? Between injuries, less foals every year, early retirements and the so called weakening of the breed this is what we are going to be looking at for a long long time.

This is probably somewhat true with the older horses. The three-year-olds will still have strong years though. Last year's crop was terrific, as was the '07 bunch.

justindew · #2 11-07-2010, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

This is probably somewhat true with the older horses. The three-year-olds will still have strong years though. Last year's crop was terrific, as was the '07 bunch.

More and more, it's becoming clear that if you want to have a horse who competes at the *highest levels of the sport, you can't point him/her toward the Triple Crown.

*anything not part of the TC

justindew · #3 11-07-2010, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by justindew

More and more, it's becoming clear that if you want to have a horse who competes at the *highest levels of the sport, you can't point him/her toward the Triple Crown.

*anything not part of the TC

I have a feeling this poorly-worded post is about to get pounced on.

ateamstupid · #4 11-07-2010, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by justindew

More and more, it's becoming clear that if you want to have a horse who competes at the *highest levels of the sport, you can't point him/her toward the Triple Crown.

*anything not part of the TC

Yeah, the HOYs the last three years didn't go near the TC. And yesterday's 3-4-5 finishers were in the barn in May and June too.

justindew · #5 11-07-2010, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yeah, the HOYs the last three years didn't go near the TC. And yesterday's 3-4-5 finishers were in the barn in May and June too.

Oh come on. The run-up to the TC and the TC itself ruins horses. You know it. God knows how many horses like Blame and Zenyatta we have been deprived of becasue they were rushed to get graded earning for the Derby and were never the same. What's the winning percentage of Derby winners in their post-Derby races? It's gotta be lower than low.

ateamstupid · #6 11-07-2010, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by justindew

Oh come on. The run-up to the TC and the TC itself ruins horses. You know it. God knows how many horses like Blame and Zenyatta we have been deprived of becasue they were rushed to get graded earning for the Derby and were never the same. What's the winning percentage of Derby winners in their post-Derby races? It's gotta be lower than low.

This is complete, unfounded nonsense. Do you ever post something that isn't pulled out of your ass?

Danzig · #7 11-07-2010, 08:40 AM

i'd love to see her try dubai.

justindew · #8 11-07-2010, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

This is complete, unfounded nonsense. Do you ever post something that isn't pulled out of your ass?

The Triple Crown should be called the Bermuda Triangle. Not every plane or boat that enters disappears, but there's something going on.

Hey, I love it. Love the Derby. Love it all.

dalakhani · #9 11-07-2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by justindew

The Triple Crown should be called the Bermuda Triangle. Not every plane or boat that enters disappears, but there's something going on.

Hey, I love it. Love the Derby. Love it all.

How about there might be other factors besides the rigors of the preps and racing those races in 5 weeks?

Chuck brought up a great point in another thread. How many potentially great horses are in the Todd Pletcher barn? He didn't single out Pletcher, but the point is that too many horses are being handled by the same few guys. How many of those horses might have been better off if managed by different guys with different skill sets, programs, etc?

This really has nothing to do with the topic though so sorry for going off course.

ateamstupid · #10 11-07-2010, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by justindew

The Triple Crown should be called the Bermuda Triangle. Not every plane or boat that enters disappears, but there's something going on.

Hey, I love it. Love the Derby. Love it all.

No, it shouldn't. I gave you empirical evidence from yesterday and the last three years that shows you're wrong. You have a bunch of anecdotal crap you heard from somebody. It's staggering how little you know about racing.