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Old 10-04-2010, 02:16 PM
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This year, after being "retired", Zenatta's accomplishements, though to this point against competition that is not as talented as what RA faced last year, is remarkable in its own right.
Other than a desperate win over St. Trinians at 9fs - She's accomplished very little this year.

The rest of her races - she was a justifable 1/20 shot on paper - in races that should have only been interesting to you if you bridgejumped her in the place pool.
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Old 10-04-2010, 02:32 PM
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Other than a desperate win over St. Trinians at 9fs - She's accomplished very little this year.

The rest of her races - she was a justifable 1/20 shot on paper - in races that should have only been interesting to you if you bridgejumped her in the place pool.
When we were all annointing RA queen last year, who was she beating? Nothing other than the horses that she lined up to race against, which looking back includes a pretty weak group of animals. Where do Macho Again and Summer Bird rank on your list of "horses I would never want to face"?

Yes, she should win these races she is competing in. Was she supposed to win the Classic last year? It's a good thing Haynesfield isn't running in the Classic this year because she'd never catch him. Haynesfield who just embarrassed our hero Blame, who beat our hero Quality Road. She is the best of what we've got right now. And if it's a watered down group, so be it.
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Old 10-04-2010, 02:35 PM
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When we were all annointing RA queen last year, who was she beating? Nothing other than the horses that she lined up to race against, which looking back includes a pretty weak group of animals. Where do Macho Again and Summer Bird rank on your list of "horses I would never want to face"?

Yes, she should win these races she is competing in. Was she supposed to win the Classic last year? It's a good thing Haynesfield isn't running in the Classic this year because she'd never catch him. Haynesfield who just embarrassed our hero Blame, who beat our hero Quality Road. She is the best of what we've got right now. And if it's a watered down group, so be it.
Haynesville wouldn't be running alone in the classic. There will be other front runners pressing. In my opinion Haynesville running in the classic helps both Zenyatta and Blame.
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Old 10-04-2010, 04:43 PM
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Yes, she should win these races she is competing in. Was she supposed to win the Classic last year? It's a good thing Haynesfield isn't running in the Classic this year because she'd never catch him. Haynesfield who just embarrassed our hero Blame, who beat our hero Quality Road. She is the best of what we've got right now. And if it's a watered down group, so be it.
Did they say he wasn't running in the Classic on ATR or something? Monday's show isn't up in the archives yet, but this piece in DRF sounds like the BCC is quite likely if he's doing well after the race. http://www.drf.com/news/haynesfield-...gold-cup-upset They don't seem excited about having to go back to a mile after doing the 1 1/4.
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Old 10-04-2010, 07:24 PM
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We always hear..."who did the horse beat?", the answer in Z's case...."everybody entered against her." A perfect record is a perfect record, Z deserves the praise she's getting and it's reflective of the cynical mindset of horse players that so many line up to diss her. I thought she deserved HOY last year but I understood RA's victory, this year....there is no question who is the best horse in training. All time great...time will tell, we should revisit that question after the BCC. In the meantime, I will relish her victories and pray for one more!
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:48 PM
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In the meantime, I will relish her victories and pray for one more!
This reminds me of this prudey old woman that came into my computer store two weeks ago.

She wanted us to fix her laptop, which wasn't turning on. She kept trying to describe problems in a form of English we were unfamiliar with and after about five minutes, my business partner had the brilliant insight to ask her if she had kept the laptop on while in her laptop carrying case.

She said yes.

We then spent the next ten minutes in a three way conversation that went something like this.

Us - " What happened was that by keeping it on while closed up in the case, it ended up gettting too hot in there and the computer cooked itself to death".

Prudey woman - "Ohhhhhhhhhh. Buttt, but, it was working before that"

Us - "Ugh. Yeah, it was working before that because that was before you had killed your laptop. Once you cooked it, the solder melts on the motherboard and your computer can no longer power on."

Prudey woman - "Ah. Well, blah blah blah. Blah blah blah. Blah blah blah. Hey, wait a second, how come it was working before I did that?"

Us - "Have you ever heard of cause and effect? What this means is that when you perform an action that has a consequence, that consequence only effects things in the future. It is not retroactive, meaning it doesn't change our past."

Prudey woman - "That reminds me of this time blah blah blah. More blah blah. But why won't the computer work now??"

Us - "Because it's dead and you murdered it. We can try to fix it by baking the entire motherboard, but that is almost certainly not going to work in your case because you've probably fried the CPU."

We had to explain the before and after thing to her five to six times.

Finally, when she gave up, we had one last exchange.

Prudey woman - "Well, thank you very much, you've been very kind. I'm going to take my laptop and say a prayer for it"

Me - "Well, good luck with that one and let me know how that turns out for you."

Prudey woman - "Ok. You never know about how these things will turn out!"

Me - "Yep. If it does work for you, let me know and you'll have yourself a job here!"

I really needed a hug at that point.

Come to think of it, that Prudey woman kinda reminds me of Prudery.

Woah.
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:54 PM
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This reminds me of this prudey old woman that came into my computer store two weeks ago.

She wanted us to fix her laptop, which wasn't turning on. She kept trying to describe problems in a form of English we were unfamiliar with and after about five minutes, my business partner had the brilliant insight to ask her if she had kept the laptop on while in her laptop carrying case.

She said yes.

We then spent the next ten minutes in a three way conversation that went something like this.

Us - " What happened was that by keeping it on while closed up in the case, it ended up gettting too hot in there and the computer cooked itself to death".

Prudey woman - "Ohhhhhhhhhh. Buttt, but, it was working before that"

Us - "Ugh. Yeah, it was working before that because that was before you had killed your laptop. Once you cooked it, the solder melts on the motherboard and your computer can no longer power on."

Prudey woman - "Ah. Well, blah blah blah. Blah blah blah. Blah blah blah. Hey, wait a second, how come it was working before I did that?"

Us - "Have you ever heard of cause and effect? What this means is that when you perform an action that has a consequence, that consequence only effects things in the future. It is not retroactive, meaning it doesn't change our past."

Prudey woman - "That reminds me of this time blah blah blah. More blah blah. But why won't the computer work now??"

Us - "Because it's dead and you murdered it. We can try to fix it by baking the entire motherboard, but that is almost certainly not going to work in your case because you've probably fried the CPU."

We had to explain the before and after thing to her five to six times.

Finally, when she gave up, we had one last exchange.

Prudey woman - "Well, thank you very much, you've been very kind. I'm going to take my laptop and say a prayer for it"

Me - "Well, good luck with that one and let me know how that turns out for you."

Prudey woman - "Ok. You never know about how these things will turn out!"

Me - "Yep. If it does work for you, let me know and you'll have yourself a job here!"

I really needed a hug at that point.

Come to think of it, that Prudey woman kinda reminds me of Prudery.

Woah.
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Old 10-04-2010, 08:57 PM
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I'm not making that story up. It really happened. While I did paraphrase a bit, we really did get condescending to her.

I swear, the only thing she needed was a Zenyatta T-shirt.
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Old 10-04-2010, 09:09 PM
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LOL … looks like somebody got under Indian Charlene's skin today.
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