Don't burn the Quran, but beheadings are OK...

joeydb · #1 09-09-2010, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

yeah, but your thread misses the whole point. for one, we are supposed to be the civilized ones. two, now i know why churches are a farce...any religion. they preach one thing and do another......i'm sure jesus would be out there burning holy books , beheading people and bombing cities. as soon as man tried to define God, its been nothing but war....thats the bottom line. all these ridiculous , stupid religions sound really peaceful and loving...until you stand back and look around. if there is a God...hes turned his back on this pathetic behavior centuries ago......lol. i'm not taking sides because the blame goes around the board...mankind is basically a loser. even when they believe in God, they do everything that God would hate......lol. so all you church goers....keep going, give them your money...see what it gets you later......lol. i guess "live by the sword, die by it" means nothing or "turn the other cheek"...thats the part that gets shoved to the side....i'm sure God will overlook that if you give the church enough money...lol...lol. religion....its a joke on this planet.

So, for being the "civilized ones" we get to be constantly on defense only, which will be read as weakness, and allow the uncivilized ones to perpetually attack. This in spite of our superior armament and technology. Then maybe, someday, we'll get another 9/11 or much worse.

Just like if I go up and punch Mike Tyson, I shouldn't expect to be killed by blunt force trauma -- namely the fists of the ex-champ, right?

Nascar1966 · #2 09-09-2010, 01:13 PM

All im going to say is that people from other countries have no problems burning our flag.

Danzig · #3 09-09-2010, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966

All im going to say is that people from other countries have no problems burning our flag.

sounds as tho u don't think thats proper behavior....but you think we should reply in kind? what will that accomplish?

miraja2 · #4 09-09-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

sounds as tho u don't think thats proper behavior....but you think we should reply in kind? what will that accomplish?

Why do you even bother?

Danzig · #5 09-09-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

Why do you even bother?

i wonder that sometimes! i just don't get the logic that burning the flag is wrong, but burning the koran- a similar act-is just peachy. i really wish someone would give me a good reason why it's acceptable to do so. if one is offended at burning something, why is burning something else an adequate or justified reply?

oh....wait...i said i want someone to use a logical way to explain how this makes sense; there's my mistake right there. there is no logic to it.

Antitrust32 · #6 09-10-2010, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i wonder that sometimes! i just don't get the logic that burning the flag is wrong, but burning the koran- a similar act-is just peachy. i really wish someone would give me a good reason why it's acceptable to do so. if one is offended at burning something, why is burning something else an adequate or justified reply?

why are people offended by burning herb?

Danzig · #7 09-10-2010, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

why are people offended by burning herb?

good question

Nascar1966 · #8 09-09-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

sounds as tho u don't think thats proper behavior....but you think we should reply in kind? what will that accomplish?

The only thing the burning of the Koran will do for this country is make more enemies.

Danzig · #9 09-09-2010, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb

So, for being the "civilized ones" we get to be constantly on defense only, which will be read as weakness, and allow the uncivilized ones to perpetually attack. This in spite of our superior armament and technology. Then maybe, someday, we'll get another 9/11 or much worse.

Just like if I go up and punch Mike Tyson, I shouldn't expect to be killed by blunt force trauma -- namely the fists of the ex-champ, right?

how does burning the koran show our strength? how does engaging in poor behavior show we aren't to be messed with?

joeydb · #10 09-09-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

how does burning the koran show our strength? how does engaging in poor behavior show we aren't to be messed with?

It will be effective in revealing the true number of radicals, which is deliberately underreported.

joeydb · #11 09-09-2010, 02:14 PM

Anybody know if the burning will be on the internet or pay-per-view?

MISTERGEE · #12 09-09-2010, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb

Anybody know if the burning will be on the internet or pay-per-view?

disney channel saturday at 4 pm

Riot · #13 09-09-2010, 06:46 PM

Danzig · #14 09-09-2010, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb

It will be effective in revealing the true number of radicals, which is deliberately underreported.

lol
we already know the 'true number'-just ask scuds. according to him, every muslim is a radical. get rid of the lot of them, and all our problems are solved. it's that simple, right? it's almost....hitler-esque, isn't it, when you look at it that way? nah...can't be. because hitler was a bad guy, and we're not bad guys.

clyde · #15 09-09-2010, 08:03 PM

5 more minutes,Danny....then I am through waiting on your phony boo-bees.

Danzig · #16 09-09-2010, 08:05 PM

wm. saletan, slate...

http://www.slate.com/id/2266535/

Two days ago, hundreds of Afghans gathered in Kabul to denounce the United States for burning the Quran. They torched American flags, chanted "Death to America," and carried signs calling for the death of President Obama. Some of them hurled rocks at U.S. troops. A student in the crowd said of the planned Quran burning: "We know this is not just the decision of a church. It is the decision of the president and the entire United States."

This is how it feels to be judged by the sins of others who destroy in the name of your faith. You're no more responsible for 30 Christian extremists in Florida than Muslims are for the 19 hijackers of 9/11. Yet most of us, when polled, say that no Muslim house of worship should be built near the site of the 9/11 attacks. In saying this, we implicitly hold all Muslims accountable for the crime of those 19 people.

Now you know how it feels to be judged that way. It's inaccurate, and it's wrong.

SCUDSBROTHER · #17 09-09-2010, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

wm. saletan, slate...

http://www.slate.com/id/2266535/

Two days ago, hundreds of Afghans gathered in Kabul to denounce the United States for burning the Quran. They torched American flags, chanted "Death to America," and carried signs calling for the death of President Obama. Some of them hurled rocks at U.S. troops. A student in the crowd said of the planned Quran burning: "We know this is not just the decision of a church. It is the decision of the president and the entire United States."

This is how it feels to be judged by the sins of others who destroy in the name of your faith. You're no more responsible for 30 Christian extremists in Florida than Muslims are for the 19 hijackers of 9/11. Yet most of us, when polled, say that no Muslim house of worship should be built near the site of the 9/11 attacks. In saying this, we implicitly hold all Muslims accountable for the crime of those 19 people.

Now you know how it feels to be judged that way. It's inaccurate, and it's wrong.

They aren't morally innocent. They follow a butcher's teachings. Anyone who does that will have to deal with the dislike that comes with it. They aren't being accused of murder. They are the followers of a terrorist. They are the fans of a butcher, and most moral people will never respect someone like this.

Danzig · #18 09-09-2010, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde

5 more minutes,Danny....then I am through waiting on your phony boo-bees.

i do not have phony boo-bees.

clyde · #19 09-09-2010, 08:16 PM

And I have NO proof.

Off it goes.

SCUDSBROTHER · #20 09-09-2010, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

lol
we already know the 'true number'-just ask scuds. according to him, every muslim is a radical. get rid of the lot of them, and all our problems are solved. it's that simple, right? it's almost....hitler-esque, isn't it, when you look at it that way? nah...can't be. because hitler was a bad guy, and we're not bad guys.

If some other group of people praised a murdering butcher, you wouldn't give them this free pass. You're the one here that is overlooking immoral stuff. Not me. I didn't say kill them. I said don't trust them. Mainly, don't be scared of their retribution. See, this whole thing this week? We don't need to be running around worrying about how they feel about a legal act being done, but look how many did worry about how they felt. This group uses fear and intimidation to get what they want. They didn't want him to do a legal act. They threatened to do such n' such. Our gov't said they feared such n' such would be done by these people "if" this was done. I object to us living our lives thinking about whether something will offend them. Fk them. I am not gunna kill anyone, but we need to stop giving a shyt what they want, or don't want. They aren't the majority in this country, or on this earth. They can eat my hole.