Obama's support for Ground Zero Mosque

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

No, you are the closed minded one here. You continue to ignore the fact these people simply follow their prophet's teachings when they kill non-Moslems. They aren't rogue in the eyes of their prophet. When it comes to Islam, the facts are not on your side. You're holding the water for people who (if in the majority) would take away so many freedoms woman take for granted here.
This religion is serious business. They aren't playing, and you're dead wrong for believing people who follow a butcher. They've been given the right to lie to you(if it helps Islam.)

lol


yeah, ok scuds. i didn't say i wanted to be a muslim, just like i no longer consider myself catholic. however, you're completely ignoring the fact that one, thankfully small, group of muslims is intent on killing anyone without their ultra-whacko view, including a sizable group of muslims who disagree with them. but all muslims are the same? if they're all the same exact bunch, why aren't they all running around killing everyone else? why are many of them a target by other muslims? why are some muslim countries far more 'westernized' than others?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

lol


yeah, ok scuds. i didn't say i wanted to be a muslim, just like i no longer consider myself catholic. however, you're completely ignoring the fact that one, thankfully small, group of muslims is intent on killing anyone without their ultra-whacko view, including a sizable group of muslims who disagree with them. but all muslims are the same? if they're all the same exact bunch, why aren't they all running around killing everyone else? why are many of them a target by other muslims? why are some muslim countries far more 'westernized' than others?

Yea, they are not as bold when they're in the minority. You're naive to think they wouldn't cutback on women's rights in this country (as soon as they had the power to do so.) How much do you think they are costing England due to inbreeding? Ain't cheap taking care of their stubborn mistakes. We aren't gunna end up like England.When they come here, they better leave this shyt behind. We aren't gunna put up with the extreme Islam they brought into England. Democrats better not keep being apologists for crap like this inbreeding. Yea, they can legally come here, and build their mosques. The whole time, they are gunna know full well this isn't England, and they aren't welcome here. They are tolerated here. There is a difference, and they are gunna experience the difference. We will not be run over by this religion even 1 day more. They will get whatever basic rights they are due, and that's all. That's what this mosque thing is partially about. We want them to know that they better keep that extreme shyt tucked way tight inside themselves. Let there be no doubt about that. They are now informed. We don't have to like them. We have to tolerate them. Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism etc. embrace American Values. Islam never will. Cut the B.S. Threatening members with death (for leaving a religion) isn't an American value. If you really gave a damn about religious freedom, all of you apologists would care more about whether American Moslems are totally free to leave their religion. That's freedom of religion, too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...s-married.html

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Yea, they are not as bold when they're in the minority. You're naive to think they wouldn't cutback on women's rights in this country (as soon as they had the power to do so.) How much do you think they are costing England due to inbreeding? Ain't cheap taking care of their stubborn mistakes.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...s-married.html

so, muslims are going to be able to circumvent the constitution when they grow large enough? that isn't going to happen. seems to me that many of the moderate muslims come here so they don't have to worry about dealing with their extremist brethren who throw acid in girls faces for daring go to school. they come here for freedom-seems like this would be the last place to come if they didn't want to be surrounded by a bunch of unclean infidels who believe in separation of church and state and have a secular government.

[Danzig]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38845340..._central_asia/

another attack by hardliners on muslims who don't believe as they do. no, this can't be right. all muslims are extremist hardliners who attack non-muslims....
see, scuds...by you saying we must not deal with them at all, you're saying people like those who send their girls to school should be handled the same as bin laden and his ilk. i'm saying these folks, who aren't crackpots, are the ones we need to be helping, allying with, so as to stop the terrorists who want things to be their way, only their way, period. you saying they're all the same is absolutely untrue. you're stereotyping this entire group, based on the actions of a few.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38845340..._central_asia/

another attack by hardliners on muslims who don't believe as they do. no, this can't be right. all muslims are extremist hardliners who attack non-muslims....
see, scuds...by you saying we must not deal with them at all, you're saying people like those who send their girls to school should be handled the same as bin laden and his ilk. i'm saying these folks, who aren't crackpots, are the ones we need to be helping, allying with, so as to stop the terrorists who want things to be their way, only their way, period. you saying they're all the same is absolutely untrue. you're stereotyping this entire group, based on the actions of a few.

I don't want to help them do anything but leave that religion. I don't want to pay for taking care of their inbreeding mistakes, or lose any more decent people (not even 1 more) when one of them decides to follow their prophets most severe teachings. These people follow the teachings of a butcher. Nothing good can come from somebody who chooses to follow such a person. You should make sure they have the freedom to leave that religion without being threatened by other members of that religion. That is the help they need. They deserve the right to get out. People who want to leave should feel secure to do so. That is the American Freedom of Religion that Moslems really need. Every American Moslem should be in that religion because they totally want to be in it. Not because they fear other Moslems.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I don't want to help them do anything but leave that religion. I don't want to pay for taking care of their inbreeding mistakes, or lose any more decent people (not even 1 more) when one of them decides to follow their prophets most severe teachings. These people follow the teachings of a butcher. Nothing good can come from somebody who chooses to follow such a person. You should make sure they have the freedom to leave that religion without being threatened by other members of that religion. That is the help they need. They deserve the right to get out. People who want to leave should feel secure to do so. That is the American Freedom of Religion that Moslems really need. Every American Moslem should be in that religion because they totally want to be in it. Not because they fear other Moslems.

i agree completely!!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

lol


yeah, ok scuds. i didn't say i wanted to be a muslim, just like i no longer consider myself catholic. however, you're completely ignoring the fact that one, thankfully small, group of muslims is intent on killing anyone without their ultra-whacko view, including a sizable group of muslims who disagree with them. but all muslims are the same? if they're all the same exact bunch, why aren't they all running around killing everyone else? why are many of them a target by other muslims? why are some muslim countries far more 'westernized' than others?

this is so wrong. if it was thankfully small, we wouldnt be bothered by it.

it is a thankfully small percentage, huge #'s. 10% of a billion is 100,000,000

That is the size of 1/3 of the USA population. Is it still thankfully small?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

this is so wrong. if it was thankfully small, we wouldnt be bothered by it.

it is a thankfully small percentage, huge #'s. 10% of a billion is 100,000,000

That is the size of 1/3 of the USA population. Is it still thankfully small?

it is small-the problem is that one dipshit willing to kill himself to take others with him can kill hundreds of people in one attack. when you think about the total amount of muslims in the world-well, if they all wanted to commit mass mayhem and murder, we'd all be done for.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it is small-the problem is that one dipshit willing to kill himself to take others with him can kill hundreds of people in one attack. when you think about the total amount of muslims in the world-well, if they all wanted to commit mass mayhem and murder, we'd all be done for.

its a fact that 10% of the muslim word leans towards extremest views and support terror operations like Al Queda, Taliban, Hamas, etc. Do they all want to become suicide bombers? probably not? do they like when "infidels" die? yes.

but 10% of one billion is not a small number no matter how you look at it.

and to the bolded part... where did that come from when I specifically mentioned 10%?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

its a fact that 10% of the muslim word leans towards extremest views and support terror operations like Al Queda, Taliban, Hamas, etc. Do they all want to become suicide bombers? probably not? do they like when "infidels" die? yes.

but 10% of one billion is not a small number no matter how you look at it.

and to the bolded part... where did that come from when I specifically mentioned 10%?

i'm talking about the amount of actual terrorists willing to commit a crime, not those who support them..no telling how big that second number might be. people might laugh when someone leads a high speed chase, doesn't mean they want to engage in one as well. how many bombs would be going off worldwide daily if 10% of the muslim world was engaging in actual crime? a lot i'd imagine.

[herkhorse]

387 posts, and the first one was right. why is this even news?

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

387 posts, and the first one was right. why is this even news?

of course the first post was right. but the liberals and conservatives have to go crying to "daddy" government. somehow the government will solve all their problems even though there is no problem. i can understand the liberals, they have always been like this. the conservatives (thats what they call themselves) are now the same mode. if they don't like something they want the government to control it....hell, they are even worse than that. they think we can control the world by invading and rebuilding countries. the only one that makes sense on the entire issue is the mayor...which makes the most sense because he is an independant. people don't even realize they get munipulated by both sides for a vote........we are a country of geniuses......yeah right......lol