Blind Luck

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Of course I did it here. Zaftig only ran about what, six times maybe?

That being said, she was a better horse than Blind Luck, based on her ability level and how fast she was. She smoked Indian Blessing, who ran much faster than Blind Luck has, many times.

Every race from Candy Ride was spectacular.

As for Octave. I think her and Blind Luck are about even, but definitely Blind Luck is a gamer horse.

Though who knows what Octave would have done in this crop.

You need to review Octave's PPs...badly.

She was a complete mediocrity who feasted on the dregs left from a crop that had one good horse and a lot of unspectacular horses. Evening Jewel is a better horse than any horse Octave ever miraculously got by.

NT

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

You need to review Octave's PPs...badly.

She was a complete mediocrity who feasted on the dregs left from a crop that had one good horse and a lot of unspectacular horses. Evening Jewel was a better horse than any horse Octave ever miraculously got by.

NT

I agree with him, yea BL wins more.... She is slow IMO.
Octave and her have very similar speed figures/final times.
Evening Jewel is better then BL IMO, and needs another chance to prove it.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I agree with him, yea BL wins more.... She is slow IMO.
Octave and her have very similar speed figures/final times.
Evening Jewel is better then BL IMO, and needs another chance to prove it.

Evening Jewel should have been beaten Saturday, and BL would run her ass down again (especially when given 9f, or more to get her.) If she got to her (late) with bone nose up, then Rosario will easily get there with her...... E.J. Tucka.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Comparing Blind Luck to Rags to Riches is pretty silly.

Winning a couple of photo finishes over Harv De Grace .. doesn't exactly compare to utterly dismantling the useful Octave and High Heels - and than beating Curlin, Hard Spun, and Tiago - the 1-2 finishers in that years BC Classic - and Tiago was the top North American finisher in one of the two pathetic joke of a BC Classic held on pro-ride.

Blind Luck had no shot with R2R.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Comparing Blind Luck to Rags to Riches is pretty silly.

Winning a couple of photo finishes over Harv De Grace .. doesn't exactly compare to utterly dismantling the useful Octave and High Heels - and than beating Curlin, Hard Spun, and Tiago - the 1-2 finishers in that years BC Classic - and Tiago was the top North American finisher in one of the two pathetic joke of a BC Classic held on pro-ride.

Blind Luck had no shot with R2R.

And don't forget that even though she didn't win the Gazelle, she did beat Tough Tiz's Sis in that race....and that apparently means quite a lot to some racing fans.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by miraja2

And don't forget that even though she didn't win the Gazelle, she did beat Tough Tiz's Sis in that race....and that apparently means quite a lot to some racing fans.

TTS, is that the Baffert that came to NY and freaked out? A 114 beyer or something?

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

TTS, is that the Baffert that came to NY and freaked out? A 114 beyer or something?

I don't remember the speed figure, but she did run pretty big in a Belmont stake on a sloppy track. I don't remember which race it was, but she won by a wide margin.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

TTS, is that the Baffert that came to NY and freaked out? A 114 beyer or something?

Tough Tiz's Sis was a total dog biscuit plucked from Hawthorne who stunk her whole career - other than one time when she freaked in the mud and the effort - according to Mr. Jerry Brown - ruined her career and caused her to get injured and never race again.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by miraja2

And don't forget that even though she didn't win the Gazelle, she did beat Tough Tiz's Sis in that race....and that apparently means quite a lot to some racing fans.

That race means nothing. Her performance was too far below her prior form to take seriously.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Comparing Blind Luck to Rags to Riches is pretty silly.

Winning a couple of photo finishes over Harv De Grace .. doesn't exactly compare to utterly dismantling the useful Octave and High Heels - and than beating Curlin, Hard Spun, and Tiago - the 1-2 finishers in that years BC Classic - and Tiago was the top North American finisher in one of the two pathetic joke of a BC Classic held on pro-ride.

Blind Luck had no shot with R2R.

Beat Curlin in there no? That is a joke.

I am not so sure it is that silly, it is difficult to compare. Like Ali/Tyson or the 85 Bears and the 94 Cowboys tough to call.

I would give her a shot in any race at this point. To include Hard Spun's Belmont isn't really fair remembering that ride.

I think she is better than she is getting credit for, that's all. I know she will be 3yo filly champ and that is deserved. What the females have been doing lately is special and just beating your own is not enough anymore, I get it.

Just looking for big things in the future from this one is all.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Beat Curlin in there no? That is a joke.

I am not so sure it is that silly, it is difficult to compare. Like Ali/Tyson or the 85 Bears and the 94 Cowboys tough to call.

I would give her a shot in any race at this point. To include Hard Spun's Belmont isn't really fair remembering that ride.

I think she is better than she is getting credit for, that's all. I know she will be 3yo filly champ and that is deserved. What the females have been doing lately is special and just beating your own is not enough anymore, I get it.

Just looking for big things in the future from this one is all.

Listen man. I am a fan of Blind Luck, and she was my most likely Oaks winner last year, but be real. When people start comparing her to horses like Rags to Riches, she is no longer being underrated.

Yes, she will be the 3yo champion. No, she will not be HOY, under any conditions short of her improving 15 lengths between now and the BC.

She's a good and honest filly that was fortunate to be born into a relatively weak crop. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Listen man. I am a fan of Blind Luck, and she was my most likely Oaks winner last year, but be real. When people start comparing her to horses like Rags to Riches, she is no longer being underrated.

Yes, she will be the 3yo champion. No, she will not be HOY, under any conditions short of her improving 15 lengths between now and the BC.

She's a good and honest filly that was fortunate to be born into a relatively weak crop. Nothing more, nothing less.

Agreed.

Just wishful thinking maybe. Perhaps she would have been better off racing on Saturday this week though. What do you think?

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

You need to review Octave's PPs...badly.

She was a complete mediocrity who feasted on the dregs left from a crop that had one good horse and a lot of unspectacular horses. Evening Jewel is a better horse than any horse Octave ever miraculously got by.

NT

This is true, with the exception of her race in the 07 Distaff, which, chartwise, is very similar to (probably better than) BL's Oaks. I mean, I also thought Octave was about as big an opportunistic plug as there ever was. Then I just looked at her charts and found the BC race. yikes

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

This is true, with the exception of her race in the 07 Distaff, which, chartwise, is very similar to (probably better than) BL's Oaks. I mean, I also thought Octave was about as big an opportunistic plug as there ever was. Then I just looked at her charts and found the BC race. yikes

So you think Gomez choking her back 9000 lengths last was a poor decision in that race?

I'm still stewing about that one.