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Old 08-24-2010, 09:00 AM
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I firmly believe that the 1-2 finishers from the Acorn a couple of years ago, Zaftig and a smartly ridden Indian Blessing, would have absolutely slaughtered Blind Luck at any distance up to 9f.

Rags would have beaten her from any distance ranging from 6f to 20f.

Proud Spell would have handled BL as well.

Blind Luck, to me, is much like an Octave, just in a really weak year.
What's interesting to me about these internet head-to-head discussions, and I'm not specifically saying you did it here, is that horses are pitted against one another and the one from yesteryear is used solely based on one, maybe two races. How else has Candy Ride become such an internet all-time great sensation?

There's also a big difference between Blind Luck and Octave. Blind Luck knows how to win.

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Old 08-24-2010, 11:25 AM
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What's interesting to me about these internet head-to-head discussions, and I'm not specifically saying you did it here, is that horses are pitted against one another and the one from yesteryear is used solely based on one, maybe two races. How else has Candy Ride become such an internet all-time great sensation?

There's also a big difference between Blind Luck and Octave. Blind Luck knows how to win.

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Of course I did it here. Zaftig only ran about what, six times maybe?

That being said, she was a better horse than Blind Luck, based on her ability level and how fast she was. She smoked Indian Blessing, who ran much faster than Blind Luck has, many times.

Every race from Candy Ride was spectacular.

As for Octave. I think her and Blind Luck are about even, but definitely Blind Luck is a gamer horse.

Though who knows what Octave would have done in this crop.
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Old 08-24-2010, 11:27 AM
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BL is a nice little horse but she would get drummed by both RA and Zenyatta.
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Old 08-24-2010, 11:28 AM
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Of course I did it here. Zaftig only ran about what, six times maybe?

That being said, she was a better horse than Blind Luck, based on her ability level and how fast she was. She smoked Indian Blessing, who ran much faster than Blind Luck has, many times.

Every race from Candy Ride was spectacular.

As for Octave. I think her and Blind Luck are about even, but definitely Blind Luck is a gamer horse.

Though who knows what Octave would have done in this crop.
You need to review Octave's PPs...badly.

She was a complete mediocrity who feasted on the dregs left from a crop that had one good horse and a lot of unspectacular horses. Evening Jewel is a better horse than any horse Octave ever miraculously got by.

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Old 08-24-2010, 11:30 AM
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You need to review Octave's PPs...badly.

She was a complete mediocrity who feasted on the dregs left from a crop that had one good horse and a lot of unspectacular horses. Evening Jewel was a better horse than any horse Octave ever miraculously got by.

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I agree with him, yea BL wins more.... She is slow IMO.
Octave and her have very similar speed figures/final times.
Evening Jewel is better then BL IMO, and needs another chance to prove it.
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Old 08-24-2010, 07:56 PM
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I agree with him, yea BL wins more.... She is slow IMO.
Octave and her have very similar speed figures/final times.
Evening Jewel is better then BL IMO, and needs another chance to prove it.
Evening Jewel should have been beaten Saturday, and BL would run her ass down again (especially when given 9f, or more to get her.) If she got to her (late) with bone nose up, then Rosario will easily get there with her...... E.J. Tucka.
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Old 08-24-2010, 08:06 PM
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Comparing Blind Luck to Rags to Riches is pretty silly.

Winning a couple of photo finishes over Harv De Grace .. doesn't exactly compare to utterly dismantling the useful Octave and High Heels - and than beating Curlin, Hard Spun, and Tiago - the 1-2 finishers in that years BC Classic - and Tiago was the top North American finisher in one of the two pathetic joke of a BC Classic held on pro-ride.

Blind Luck had no shot with R2R.
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Old 08-24-2010, 08:25 PM
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Comparing Blind Luck to Rags to Riches is pretty silly.

Winning a couple of photo finishes over Harv De Grace .. doesn't exactly compare to utterly dismantling the useful Octave and High Heels - and than beating Curlin, Hard Spun, and Tiago - the 1-2 finishers in that years BC Classic - and Tiago was the top North American finisher in one of the two pathetic joke of a BC Classic held on pro-ride.

Blind Luck had no shot with R2R.
And don't forget that even though she didn't win the Gazelle, she did beat Tough Tiz's Sis in that race....and that apparently means quite a lot to some racing fans.
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Old 08-25-2010, 09:51 AM
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Comparing Blind Luck to Rags to Riches is pretty silly.

Winning a couple of photo finishes over Harv De Grace .. doesn't exactly compare to utterly dismantling the useful Octave and High Heels - and than beating Curlin, Hard Spun, and Tiago - the 1-2 finishers in that years BC Classic - and Tiago was the top North American finisher in one of the two pathetic joke of a BC Classic held on pro-ride.

Blind Luck had no shot with R2R.
Beat Curlin in there no? That is a joke.

I am not so sure it is that silly, it is difficult to compare. Like Ali/Tyson or the 85 Bears and the 94 Cowboys tough to call.

I would give her a shot in any race at this point. To include Hard Spun's Belmont isn't really fair remembering that ride.

I think she is better than she is getting credit for, that's all. I know she will be 3yo filly champ and that is deserved. What the females have been doing lately is special and just beating your own is not enough anymore, I get it.

Just looking for big things in the future from this one is all.
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Old 08-24-2010, 11:37 AM
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You need to review Octave's PPs...badly.

She was a complete mediocrity who feasted on the dregs left from a crop that had one good horse and a lot of unspectacular horses. Evening Jewel is a better horse than any horse Octave ever miraculously got by.

NT
This is true, with the exception of her race in the 07 Distaff, which, chartwise, is very similar to (probably better than) BL's Oaks. I mean, I also thought Octave was about as big an opportunistic plug as there ever was. Then I just looked at her charts and found the BC race. yikes
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Old 08-24-2010, 11:52 AM
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This is true, with the exception of her race in the 07 Distaff, which, chartwise, is very similar to (probably better than) BL's Oaks. I mean, I also thought Octave was about as big an opportunistic plug as there ever was. Then I just looked at her charts and found the BC race. yikes
So you think Gomez choking her back 9000 lengths last was a poor decision in that race?

I'm still stewing about that one.
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