The Death Penalty

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I'd be more for it if it was quicker and cheaper. Its way too expensive.

I'm fine with anyone being put to death who committed pre meditated 1st degree murder. They are just a waste of life and dont deserve to share the same air as good people. (I guess I'm barbaric)

I would be for the death penalty for 1st degree rapists and child molesters too. You dont rape a child by accident, and you dont recover from your mental sickness that makes you rape a child in the first place.

I think it should be simple and cost effective.

If DNA evidence or full confession proves beyond any kind of doubt the murderer or rapist was guilty, take them out back and use a 30 cent bullet and get the job done. Stop wasting 1 million dollars of tax payers money on these filthy pigs.

If there is no DNA evidence, then the death penalty should be off the table (unless there is a confession).

If there is no doubt someone did it, I'm all for them being put down like the animal they are. They deserve it.

I think having the DNA or confession is really important so terrible mistakes are avoided. There was a man in texas executed for committing arson that killed his two daughters. The "arson science" used was suspect, and a lot of independent investigors have been on record saying it most likely was not arson, yet the judice department would not take those views into consideration. They man denied it until the day he was killed. Very sad situation for a man that probably wasnt even guilty. In cases like this, if a prosecuter did not do due diligence and an innocent man was executed, the prosecuter should have to face charges and jail time.

But yeah, the scumbags that deserve it have no value to this world and should just be eliminated in a cost effective manner.

The problem with that is there have been cases where people have confessed to capital crimes, and then it turned out later that they didn't do it. That is hard for most people to understand, because they think "why the hell would somebody confess to something they didn't do? I would never do that."
The problem lies in the fact that not everyone's mind works the same. Some people are mentally incompetent, or some people react very differently to lenghty and tough police questioning (even when the police do everything legally). Although a confession seems like incontrovertible evidence....it isn't in all cases. If the state puts somebody to death on the grounds of that evidence, it could certainly turn out that they actually executed an innocent person who (for whatever reason) gave a false confession.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by miraja2

The problem with that is there have been cases where people have confessed to capital crimes, and then it turned out later that they didn't do it. That is hard for most people to understand, because they think "why the hell would somebody confess to something they didn't do? I would never do that."
The problem lies in the fact that not everyone's mind works the same. Some people are mentally incompetent, or some people react very differently to lenghty and tough police questioning (even when the police do everything legally). Although a confession seems like incontrovertible evidence....it isn't in all cases. If the state puts somebody to death on the grounds of that evidence, it could certainly turn out that they actually executed an innocent person who (for whatever reason) gave a false confession.

I also dont believe that people with mental disabilities should be put to death.

(and I'm talking Mental Retardation, not sociopaths)

Wasnt there another case in Texas where a man with Mental Retardation was given the death penalty for killing someone?

That, to me, is wrong.

[paisjpq]

"...The trouble with the death penalty has always been that nobody wanted it for everybody, but everybody differed about who should get off."
Albert Pierrepoint--one of Britains last hangmen.
also the subject of an OK indie film called Pierrepoint: the last hangman